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radou01

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Hallo forumleden,

Momenteel aan het cutten en ben sinds week meteen begonnen met cafeïne 2x 200mg per dag en groene thee van myprotein, hiervan neem ik 1 tablet per dag.

Groene thee-extract 450 mg
polyfenolen (min. 95%) 67,5 mg Catechins (min.65%) 18 mg
EGCG (min. 40%) 4,5 mg
Cafeïne 36 mg

Is dit effectief of zal ik de dosis groene thee verhogen?

Vraag me ook af hoeveel meer verbrand met zo combo.
 
Het effect zal op zn best minimaal zijn.
 
Cutten doe je met een (niet te groot) calorieën tekort in een normaal voedingsschema, niet met dergelijke 'combo's'.
 
Cutten doe je met een (niet te groot) calorieën tekort in een normaal voedingsschema, niet met dergelijke 'combo's'.

Ter info voor jouw. Dit zie ik als een extraatje naast mijn voedingsschema en cardio, doe al wat langer mee om te weten dat voeding op nummer 1 moet staan.
 
Dus ik ben eigenlijk helemaal niet natty?! :eek:

Dan ga ik nu die puf helemaal leeginhaleren.

Whaha die puf gaat niks uithalen. Je moet orals hebben. 60 pufjes staat gelijk aan 8mg oral als ik 't me goed herinner.

The effect of caffeine and albuterol on body composition and metabolic rate. - PubMed - NCBI

In rats, albuterol with caffeine produced significantly greater increases in lean body mass and reductions in fat mass without changes in food intake after 4-8 weeks of treatment. Since caffeine and albuterol are approved for the treatment of asthma in children and adolescents at the doses tested and change body composition without changing food intake, this combination may deserve further exploration for use in treating pediatric obesity.

Ze waren ooit van plan om Salbutamol als vetverbrander in de markt te zetten... geen idee wat daar van terecht is gekomen.

Bid to help obese lose weight the wheezy way


The main ingredient in Ventolin, the drug that has been used to treat asthma sufferers for 40 years, could soon help obese people shed up to five kilograms a week.

An Australian firm is in talks to develop a slow-release capsule form of salbutamol, known as r-salbutamol, which it claims can reduce body weight by 2 to 3 per cent a week and could be on the market in three years.

Stirling Products says it could prove to be a "massive blockbuster" because salbutamol had been proven safe and obesity and its related illnesses were soaring in Western countries.

Salbutamol administered to asthmatics acts on smooth muscle to reduce bronchial spasms, but managing director Peter Boonen said a capsule form of the drug could "turn off fat receptors".

"It will move weight fairly rapidly, but it won't be available over the counter," he said.

"Doctors will prescribe it for 14 days, then review progress."


Salbutamol is a beta-2 agonist, which has the same effect on the adrenergic system as exercise, resulting in weight loss, an increase in muscle mass and a reduced appetite. It is rapidly excreted in urine but tolerance usually develops within days.

It has been listed as a fat-loss drug on bodybuilding websites and some athletes report taking up to 16 milligrams a day, but it has never gained ground as a credible treatment for obesity because the long-term side effects of oral r-salbutamol have not been tested on humans.

Stirling has tested the drug on obese rats and beagle dogs but is awaiting confirmation on a deal with a pharmaceutical company before applying to the Therapeutic Goods Administration for approval to conduct human trials.

"Short-term drug therapy can't be the long-term solution to a chronic problem," said Louise Baur, the director of weight management services at the Children's Hospital at Westmead.

R-salbutamol is being tested as a growth enhancer in pigs with a trial due to start in Canada next month. It is expected to improve lean meat yields for pork producers.

Months ago, Stirling was promoting r-salbutamol as a treatment for obese dogs and cats, but Mr Boonen said that since the company's restructure in February, the focus was now "more on humans". "Is everyone screaming for a drug for their fat kitten? I'd say the answer to that is no.
 
Whaha die puf gaat niks uithalen. Je moet orals hebben. 60 pufjes staat volgensmij gelijk aan 8mg oral als ik 't me goed herinner.

The effect of caffeine and albuterol on body composition and metabolic rate. - PubMed - NCBI

In rats, albuterol with caffeine produced significantly greater increases in lean body mass and reductions in fat mass without changes in food intake after 4-8 weeks of treatment. Since caffeine and albuterol are approved for the treatment of asthma in children and adolescents at the doses tested and change body composition without changing food intake, this combination may deserve further exploration for use in treating pediatric obesity.

In mensen kan je die winst in lean body mass wel vergeten.
 
Bedankt voor het research, ik wist hier niks van. Ik dacht dat het een ander soort steroïde betrof (niet anabool).
 
Je natty kaart ben je wel kwijt. Clen om af te vallen is ook niet natty :D
Ik ben nu net zo fout als al die wielrenners die 'toevallig' allemaal astma blijken te hebben. :roflol:

Nouja, dan ook meteen maar goed doorpakken. Kom maar door met die spuit!
 
Ik ben nu net zo fout als al die wielrenners die 'toevallig' allemaal astma blijken te hebben. :roflol:

Nouja, dan ook meteen maar goed doorpakken. Kom maar door met die spuit!
Cero cero cero cero.........cinqo.....:D
 
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