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An interview with Geoff Thompson by Emma Robbins - Part 1
20/05/2010
PART 1
(Emma Robins) How and why did you become involved in the Martial Arts?
(Geoff Thompson) Like many people I was bullied as a kid, so I decided (after watching Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon) that I was going to become a fearless master of all things Martial. After thirty-seven (or so) years of diligent practice I am neither a master nor am I fearless. But I have been around a few corners and trained with some amazing people, and I have learned a thing or two about fear and physical confrontation. The Martial Arts transformed me from a young man that was frightened of pretty much everything to a very happy alchemist (and a weathered and seasoned lover of life), who no longer lives under the dominion of fear. I have learned to transmute that latent energy (fear) into gold.
(ER) You have been training, as you said, for 37 or so years. What has kept you training? Why do you continue with your own practices?
(GT) The simple answer is I still love it. I am still excited by the training and by the challenge. There is not a single day that I do not love training. And of course I am still growing, not so much in the physical game these days, although I still train physically every day, more in the internal game. Writing this article is an extension of my Martial Arts, making the films is an extension, managing my very prolific life is merely an extension of the Martial Arts. It informs everything I am. So these days it is not just what I do it has become what I am. And man I do love the people. I did a residential course recently with Peter (Consterdine) and had four days working and sharing with some of the best Martial Artists in the world. I am in a privileged position Emma; most of my best friends are world-class Martial Artists.
(ER) You did all of your Dan gradings with Enoeda Sensei, and trained with many of the KUGB greats. Would you be kind enough to share some memories and stories that you have of your training with these karateka?
(GT) Well, now we are talking. Man, I trained with some wonderful people. I can still remember the awe of Kawasoe as he (seemingly) glided through the dojo in his crisp white gi, and how karateka would travel from across the country to grade under him. I was probably about 12 years old (I still have my original licence) and training at the Longford Shotokan Club under the auspices of Mick and Rick Jackson. These two men were amazing athletes, and certainly pioneered karate in the Midlands. I actually used to walk a six mile round trip (chips on the way home) to train in what was probably the toughest karate club I have ever trained in. It was full of very large men and one or two equally scary women. To my youthful (fearful) eyes it felt a bit like walking onto the set of Monsters Inc. I loved the club, but it did terrify me. The training was relentless, the standards very high and if you didn’t block, something got broke; that was a given. It terrified me at the time. But retrospect has shown me that the grounding was perfect. I can remember that long walk as though it was yesterday, and how every step tempted me to stop and go back home. How, when I did arrive, I would peep through the high dojo doors before every session to see who was in attendance. And there were always several people who scared the breakfast out of me. Of course I realise now how important fear is in training, and that if there is no fear, if there is not difficulty and if there is not doubt and uncertainty you are sure to be at the wrong club. Those early ‘inferno sessions’ in Shotokan absolutely and unequivocally made me; they gave me a foundation that, later standing on violent Coventry nightclub doors, literally saved my life.
Mr Kawasoe was the epitome of power, but I always remember him as a very gentle and shy man. Of course when he moved it was like someone had thrown a live match into a box of fireworks. He was very dynamic. A very explosive Martial Artist. All of my early kyu grades were taken under Mr. Kawasoe. Then later, my first and second dans were taken under Enoeda Sensei. My best memories from that period are of Mick and Rick Jackson, they were so talented. I mean everyone looked up to Rick, he was just such an incredible man, but I was particularly taken by Mick, who was an amazing kicker. All I wanted to do back then was kick and Mick was (for me) the best technical kicker I have seen. I used to watch him warm up before sessions, lifting his knee almost to his head height then very slowly pushing out the most perfect kekomi. I dreamed of being able to do that. Then later of course I trained under, and was very influenced by, legends like Terry O’Neill, who became a hero of mine. He was actually responsible for publishing my first ever piece of writing, an article I penned for Fighting Arts International called Confrontation, Desensitisation (about gaining desensitisation to fear by confronting it). He actually rang me up to congratulate me on the piece and gave me great inspiration. I was just a club second dan in those days, whilst Terry et al were in the very highest echelons of Martial Arts, so I was really delighted and flattered that he rang. His phone call and subsequent support of my writing and training was what enabled me to add some heady ascent to my writing and my Martial game. And many, many years later when I was promoting my book Watch My Back I actually got a telephone call from Dennis Martin (another hero of mine) saying “Terry said, do you fancy a brew when you’re next in Liverpool?”
Tea with Terry!
It was like getting signed up for United. I was thrilled.
Let me tell you Emma I have met some of the very best folk over a cup of tea, in fact tea has become a bit of a theme for me; I first met Peter Consterdine over a tea in Huddersfield when he interviewed me for Martial Arts Illustrated and he showed me his devastating double hip punch on the services car park. I have had many teas with my JKD friend Rick Young in an Edinburgh hotel café overlooking the castle. I have tea twice a year with Australian grappling supremo John B. Will in Coventry where he tells me about his training with legends like Don Draeger. I actually had tea at my house just last week with Thai legend Master Sken. I have to tell you that you meet the best people over a pot of tea. I even found myself having tea with Chuck Norris in Las Vegas, Nevada some years ago (thinking to myself ‘how did I end up here?’). He had taken a real liking to my work on fear, the fence and posturing and invited me two years in a row to teach for his group in the US. It was a great honour, I was teaching with Benny ‘The Jet’ Urquidez and the Machado brothers (of Gracie Ju-Jitsu fame). It was amazing and quite surreal, because I was sat with Mr Norris in a Las Vegas Hotel, talking about the times that he used to spar with Bruce Lee.
(ER) You work very closely with Peter Consterdine. Can you please tell us how this friendship first started and what was it about him that made you want to work closely with him?
(GT) Peter Consterdine pretty much made me. When I met him I was a gnarled, knotted, working doorman that had some good innovative ideas on how to train for honest reality but not much idea on how to get that into a respectable teaching format. I’d written a book called Watch My Back and was trying to promote it through the Martial Arts magazines. I sent it to Bob Sykes at MAI magazine and he’d directed me to Peter, his ‘reality guy.’ I met Peter in a café where he interviewed me (tea again) and talked all things Martial. Peter was a really big name in Martial Arts, an established, high-ranking former international and I was completely un-known but we really hit it off from the very first meeting. He showed me his double hip, I showed him my line-up (the fence and pre-emptive strike) and we went from there. Peter liked the book so I was very cheeky and said ‘will you do a foreword for me?’ which he duly did. As soon as the book was released to the shops I sent him a copy and then one day, some months later and out of the blue he rang and said “I’m thinking of starting a self-defence association, do you want to join me as joint chief instructor?” And that is how the British Combat Association started. Peter became a real mentor to me, still is. He really helped me to refine and develop my art from something very rough and uncouth to what it is today. He is the kind of mentor that you dream of having, he was amazing to me. I don’t want to sound too self depreciating because I am aware of how hard I have worked and the time I have invested in training and developing myself, but I sincerely believe that if it wasn’t for Peter I’d probably still be working doors and lumping people. And man is he impressive! The first time I held the strike pad on my chest and he demonstrated his double hip I felt as though I was separated from my spine. I actually felt as though I had been knocked out of my body. I think there might still be bits of me on that services car park In Huddersfield. It was massively impressive. What I love most about him though was the fact that he had trained with everyone, he’d started with karate, but then he went heavily into Chinese forms even training in China with Yip Chun. He’s looked at wrestling, boxing, heavy weights, bouncing, body-guarding, he is one of those people that has (as they say) rode on wheel-less trains and lived with jealous women. He is extremely charismatic and erudite. When he walks into a room, you automatically know just by his presence and aura that he is someone. And that is what good solid honest sapient Martial Arts should deliver.
(ER) I understand you have written a Foreword to Dennis Martin’s book Working with Warriors. How did you get to know each other?
(GT) I was actually weaned on Den’s column in Terry’s Fighting Arts International Magazine. I think I was a brown belt or a first dan back then, training with the KUGB. Den and Terry were big heroes of mine. This was way before I ever worked a nightclub door. His was the first column I always turned to every month. It was a cup of tea and FAI (great days). Later after I’d got a bit of experience myself I wrote my first article for FAI and then later still, when I started working with Peter and we formed the BCA I got to know Den on a personal level, me and Peter used to invite him down to teach on the monthly courses we held. It was a great honour to write the foreword to a book written by (in my opinion) the best defence teacher in the world today.
(ER) How much of your Shotokan roots do you still use and develop in your system?
(GT) My training has changed massively now, I no longer do physical animal days, I have moved onto the internal jihad, the metaphysical animal day if you like. But all of my physical reality training (in fact ‘all’ of my training) has its roots in Shotokan. I had twenty amazing years in this beautiful system and was blessed to have trained with the greats like Terry O’Neil and Andy Sherry, Bob Poynton and Frank Brennan, to name but a few. My first ever grading was under Kawasoe when I was training with Rick and Mick Jackson, and all my dan grades were taken under Enoeda Sensei. It was incredibly hard training and a great foundation for me. When I later went out to study wrestling and judo and Thai and catch and many other systems, I was delighted and surprised to find that everything I learned in these Arts I could trace back to the bunkai of Shotokan kata. The only problem was it was not being taught openly on the curriculum, or if it was it was just a few repetitions of a popular bunkai – I wanted more, I wanted to master all the ranges. If they were in the kata I wanted to know what they were and to be able to perfect them. I went into judo and studied it deeply. As well as training privately with Wayne Lakin, British Judo champion, I also spent 18 months under Neil Adams at his full time International class. I was amazed at how much of the tachi waza, the shimi waza, the ashi waza and even the ne waza was, again, nesting in the kata of Shotokan. It was interesting for me because at the time I took a lot of criticism from my peers for training in different arts, many even said that I abandoned my art. I actually felt the opposite, I felt that I was being brave enough to explore my art.
(ER) You speak about how you were delighted to find that everything you were learning from the other Martial Arts, you could find in the kata. Does kata have a place in your current study and practice?
(GT) Not any more but I did enjoy it very much. People often talk about the fact that kata is unrealistic, just as they say that the patterns in Gung Fu and Judo are unrealistic, or the Ram Muay in Thai. But I don’t agree. I don’t actually think the critics know what they are looking at or talking about. Personally I never imagined that kata was meant to be the schematic for a real fight. Outside the chippy, people do not put down their haddocks and queue up to attack you one at a time in a set format. It would be naïve to believe that, even more naïve for the critics to think that experienced karateka would imagine it to be true. I think kata is much more than that. It taught me movement, co-ordination, balance, power, timing, momentum, projection, intent, distancing, Kime, breathing, visualisation, stamina, musculature, a sinewy mentality – I could go on. Kata was my grand foundation for when I later expanded into different arts, different branches of the Shotokan tree. I let got of the formal practice of kata but the benefits are rooted in every single thing I do. Many great Martial Artists find their way through kata, and I respect that.
(ER) What was your favourite kata?
(GT) Sochin probably. I liked the sheer power, the deep stances, the breathing, and even sitting here now I can still feel the satisfaction of that last kiai point. I loved it. It suited me very much. But I have to tell you here and now that I was not a great karateka. I was keen, I trained hard but it was only later, when I gave up my job and trained full time with world-class people that I took my art to the higher echelons. In the early days I was a good solid club player, that’s all. I was very powerful because I was committed and able to captain and direct my fear, but I was not very pretty to watch, the aesthetics were not splendid like Frank or Terry, my control was not the best either and my competition was pretty awful. But even with all my inadequacies, I used to scare the shit out of people with my very strong intent, especially my kiai. Later on the doors I developed this spirit to the point where I could defeat a dance floor full of potential attackers just with my voice.
(ER) You mentioned that your training has become more of a metaphysical animal day now. Can you explain what you mean by this? How has your training changed and developed over the years?
(GT) Yes, of course, but if I could first explain why and how I got to that place I think it might help. When I got to 5th dan many years ago, what they call the master grade, physically I was there and I was happy. I had taken my bones into the forge and had them tempered. But emotionally and spiritually I did not feel like a master. Actually I did not even feel like a master physically and physiologically because I was still struggling with real basics like palate control, and I was still carrying more addictions that you could shake a stick at. I was no more a master of myself than I was an astronaut. All of my training career I had been searching for self-sovereignty, and the physical animal days had taken me a long way towards it, but at that time all I had mastered was the ability to handle combat and combative fear. Outside of that I was still a neophyte. This was a hard realisation. I felt like a bit of a fraud. So I took my animal training to the next level (the internal Jihad) where my opponents were the addictions that sapped most of my power. I had always considered myself to be (what the Sufi poet Rumi called) a night-traveller, in that I went outside, into the night, in search of my fears in order to face down and overcome them. I intended to master myself. And I did do this. But now it was time for the real battle, the internal wrastle. I reversed the process. Instead of going out, I started to go in. I hunted down all my shadows; anger, greed, envy, jealousy, lust etc. and I faced them one by one until I mastered them. I unearthed my addictions, and I took a hammer to them also. I hunted all the pornography in my life (and it might be said that anything outside of homeostasis is pornography) and battered in back into moderation. This took a lot of self-honesty, because most addictions hide themselves under the warm cloak of denial and rationalisation. It is easier to say ‘I drink moderately’ than it is to say ‘I have a problem with drink.’ It is deliciously tempting to say coïtusual pornography is natural than it is to admit that - physiologically speaking – any pornography acts as a damaging caustic on the body and mind. (I know that this might seem peripheral to Martial Arts, but to me it is integral. Could you call yourself a master mechanic simply because you have learned how to put petrol in your car and drive from A to B?) Also, what you ingest (food, drink, drugs, conversation, environment etc) has a huge effect on the adrenals, and if the adrenals are constantly triggered it makes you predatory. And if you are predatory you are aggressive. And aggressive people attract aggressive people and aggressive situations. That, from my experience is fact. When I look back to the days that I was fighting in nightclubs on a weekly, sometimes daily basis, I can see that the reason I was fighting so much was not because I was a victim, or that the world was conspiring against me, rather it was because I was a beacon that attracted fighting. All I thought about, all I talked about, all I read about and watched and lived and breathed was violence. It was my raison d’être. I had weapons in every room of my house, even the smallest room. Violence was not happening in spite of me, it was happening because of me. I was creating it. Whether you read the Testament, the Guru Guran Sahb, the Upanishads, or the Divine Comedy they all tell you the same thing; what we think about emotively and consistently we will create. My life is testament to that, my experiences are my gospel and they cross reference with all the great tomes. Metaphysical self-defence then is realising this and doing something about it. Learning to understand the basics of personal creation (like mastering Kihon) and then learning to direct and mould personal creation. So instead of thinking, talking and reading about violence, I started to think, talk, read and live peaceful thoughts, creative anabolic thoughts, emotive thoughts that add to the world, not take away from it. The subject demands a book in itself really so I won’t go on, but suffice to say that what excites me most about Martial Arts, what inspires me to explore and investigate it is not becoming a good fighter, what really excites me is the challenge of learning to know myself and my massive, massive potential, and then capitalising on that potential. If it was just about the physical I’d have lost interest twenty years ago.
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maar het is om te smullen
over een echte straatvechter...
hij heeft veel geschreven over zijn periode als uitsmijter, hoe verrot zn leven was.
Dus neem de tijd en lees het, dit is mooi spul.
Een docu op papier...
An interview with Geoff Thompson by Emma Robbins - Part 1
20/05/2010
PART 1
(Emma Robins) How and why did you become involved in the Martial Arts?
(Geoff Thompson) Like many people I was bullied as a kid, so I decided (after watching Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon) that I was going to become a fearless master of all things Martial. After thirty-seven (or so) years of diligent practice I am neither a master nor am I fearless. But I have been around a few corners and trained with some amazing people, and I have learned a thing or two about fear and physical confrontation. The Martial Arts transformed me from a young man that was frightened of pretty much everything to a very happy alchemist (and a weathered and seasoned lover of life), who no longer lives under the dominion of fear. I have learned to transmute that latent energy (fear) into gold.
(ER) You have been training, as you said, for 37 or so years. What has kept you training? Why do you continue with your own practices?
(GT) The simple answer is I still love it. I am still excited by the training and by the challenge. There is not a single day that I do not love training. And of course I am still growing, not so much in the physical game these days, although I still train physically every day, more in the internal game. Writing this article is an extension of my Martial Arts, making the films is an extension, managing my very prolific life is merely an extension of the Martial Arts. It informs everything I am. So these days it is not just what I do it has become what I am. And man I do love the people. I did a residential course recently with Peter (Consterdine) and had four days working and sharing with some of the best Martial Artists in the world. I am in a privileged position Emma; most of my best friends are world-class Martial Artists.
(ER) You did all of your Dan gradings with Enoeda Sensei, and trained with many of the KUGB greats. Would you be kind enough to share some memories and stories that you have of your training with these karateka?
(GT) Well, now we are talking. Man, I trained with some wonderful people. I can still remember the awe of Kawasoe as he (seemingly) glided through the dojo in his crisp white gi, and how karateka would travel from across the country to grade under him. I was probably about 12 years old (I still have my original licence) and training at the Longford Shotokan Club under the auspices of Mick and Rick Jackson. These two men were amazing athletes, and certainly pioneered karate in the Midlands. I actually used to walk a six mile round trip (chips on the way home) to train in what was probably the toughest karate club I have ever trained in. It was full of very large men and one or two equally scary women. To my youthful (fearful) eyes it felt a bit like walking onto the set of Monsters Inc. I loved the club, but it did terrify me. The training was relentless, the standards very high and if you didn’t block, something got broke; that was a given. It terrified me at the time. But retrospect has shown me that the grounding was perfect. I can remember that long walk as though it was yesterday, and how every step tempted me to stop and go back home. How, when I did arrive, I would peep through the high dojo doors before every session to see who was in attendance. And there were always several people who scared the breakfast out of me. Of course I realise now how important fear is in training, and that if there is no fear, if there is not difficulty and if there is not doubt and uncertainty you are sure to be at the wrong club. Those early ‘inferno sessions’ in Shotokan absolutely and unequivocally made me; they gave me a foundation that, later standing on violent Coventry nightclub doors, literally saved my life.
Mr Kawasoe was the epitome of power, but I always remember him as a very gentle and shy man. Of course when he moved it was like someone had thrown a live match into a box of fireworks. He was very dynamic. A very explosive Martial Artist. All of my early kyu grades were taken under Mr. Kawasoe. Then later, my first and second dans were taken under Enoeda Sensei. My best memories from that period are of Mick and Rick Jackson, they were so talented. I mean everyone looked up to Rick, he was just such an incredible man, but I was particularly taken by Mick, who was an amazing kicker. All I wanted to do back then was kick and Mick was (for me) the best technical kicker I have seen. I used to watch him warm up before sessions, lifting his knee almost to his head height then very slowly pushing out the most perfect kekomi. I dreamed of being able to do that. Then later of course I trained under, and was very influenced by, legends like Terry O’Neill, who became a hero of mine. He was actually responsible for publishing my first ever piece of writing, an article I penned for Fighting Arts International called Confrontation, Desensitisation (about gaining desensitisation to fear by confronting it). He actually rang me up to congratulate me on the piece and gave me great inspiration. I was just a club second dan in those days, whilst Terry et al were in the very highest echelons of Martial Arts, so I was really delighted and flattered that he rang. His phone call and subsequent support of my writing and training was what enabled me to add some heady ascent to my writing and my Martial game. And many, many years later when I was promoting my book Watch My Back I actually got a telephone call from Dennis Martin (another hero of mine) saying “Terry said, do you fancy a brew when you’re next in Liverpool?”
Tea with Terry!
It was like getting signed up for United. I was thrilled.
Let me tell you Emma I have met some of the very best folk over a cup of tea, in fact tea has become a bit of a theme for me; I first met Peter Consterdine over a tea in Huddersfield when he interviewed me for Martial Arts Illustrated and he showed me his devastating double hip punch on the services car park. I have had many teas with my JKD friend Rick Young in an Edinburgh hotel café overlooking the castle. I have tea twice a year with Australian grappling supremo John B. Will in Coventry where he tells me about his training with legends like Don Draeger. I actually had tea at my house just last week with Thai legend Master Sken. I have to tell you that you meet the best people over a pot of tea. I even found myself having tea with Chuck Norris in Las Vegas, Nevada some years ago (thinking to myself ‘how did I end up here?’). He had taken a real liking to my work on fear, the fence and posturing and invited me two years in a row to teach for his group in the US. It was a great honour, I was teaching with Benny ‘The Jet’ Urquidez and the Machado brothers (of Gracie Ju-Jitsu fame). It was amazing and quite surreal, because I was sat with Mr Norris in a Las Vegas Hotel, talking about the times that he used to spar with Bruce Lee.
(ER) You work very closely with Peter Consterdine. Can you please tell us how this friendship first started and what was it about him that made you want to work closely with him?
(GT) Peter Consterdine pretty much made me. When I met him I was a gnarled, knotted, working doorman that had some good innovative ideas on how to train for honest reality but not much idea on how to get that into a respectable teaching format. I’d written a book called Watch My Back and was trying to promote it through the Martial Arts magazines. I sent it to Bob Sykes at MAI magazine and he’d directed me to Peter, his ‘reality guy.’ I met Peter in a café where he interviewed me (tea again) and talked all things Martial. Peter was a really big name in Martial Arts, an established, high-ranking former international and I was completely un-known but we really hit it off from the very first meeting. He showed me his double hip, I showed him my line-up (the fence and pre-emptive strike) and we went from there. Peter liked the book so I was very cheeky and said ‘will you do a foreword for me?’ which he duly did. As soon as the book was released to the shops I sent him a copy and then one day, some months later and out of the blue he rang and said “I’m thinking of starting a self-defence association, do you want to join me as joint chief instructor?” And that is how the British Combat Association started. Peter became a real mentor to me, still is. He really helped me to refine and develop my art from something very rough and uncouth to what it is today. He is the kind of mentor that you dream of having, he was amazing to me. I don’t want to sound too self depreciating because I am aware of how hard I have worked and the time I have invested in training and developing myself, but I sincerely believe that if it wasn’t for Peter I’d probably still be working doors and lumping people. And man is he impressive! The first time I held the strike pad on my chest and he demonstrated his double hip I felt as though I was separated from my spine. I actually felt as though I had been knocked out of my body. I think there might still be bits of me on that services car park In Huddersfield. It was massively impressive. What I love most about him though was the fact that he had trained with everyone, he’d started with karate, but then he went heavily into Chinese forms even training in China with Yip Chun. He’s looked at wrestling, boxing, heavy weights, bouncing, body-guarding, he is one of those people that has (as they say) rode on wheel-less trains and lived with jealous women. He is extremely charismatic and erudite. When he walks into a room, you automatically know just by his presence and aura that he is someone. And that is what good solid honest sapient Martial Arts should deliver.
(ER) I understand you have written a Foreword to Dennis Martin’s book Working with Warriors. How did you get to know each other?
(GT) I was actually weaned on Den’s column in Terry’s Fighting Arts International Magazine. I think I was a brown belt or a first dan back then, training with the KUGB. Den and Terry were big heroes of mine. This was way before I ever worked a nightclub door. His was the first column I always turned to every month. It was a cup of tea and FAI (great days). Later after I’d got a bit of experience myself I wrote my first article for FAI and then later still, when I started working with Peter and we formed the BCA I got to know Den on a personal level, me and Peter used to invite him down to teach on the monthly courses we held. It was a great honour to write the foreword to a book written by (in my opinion) the best defence teacher in the world today.
(ER) How much of your Shotokan roots do you still use and develop in your system?
(GT) My training has changed massively now, I no longer do physical animal days, I have moved onto the internal jihad, the metaphysical animal day if you like. But all of my physical reality training (in fact ‘all’ of my training) has its roots in Shotokan. I had twenty amazing years in this beautiful system and was blessed to have trained with the greats like Terry O’Neil and Andy Sherry, Bob Poynton and Frank Brennan, to name but a few. My first ever grading was under Kawasoe when I was training with Rick and Mick Jackson, and all my dan grades were taken under Enoeda Sensei. It was incredibly hard training and a great foundation for me. When I later went out to study wrestling and judo and Thai and catch and many other systems, I was delighted and surprised to find that everything I learned in these Arts I could trace back to the bunkai of Shotokan kata. The only problem was it was not being taught openly on the curriculum, or if it was it was just a few repetitions of a popular bunkai – I wanted more, I wanted to master all the ranges. If they were in the kata I wanted to know what they were and to be able to perfect them. I went into judo and studied it deeply. As well as training privately with Wayne Lakin, British Judo champion, I also spent 18 months under Neil Adams at his full time International class. I was amazed at how much of the tachi waza, the shimi waza, the ashi waza and even the ne waza was, again, nesting in the kata of Shotokan. It was interesting for me because at the time I took a lot of criticism from my peers for training in different arts, many even said that I abandoned my art. I actually felt the opposite, I felt that I was being brave enough to explore my art.
(ER) You speak about how you were delighted to find that everything you were learning from the other Martial Arts, you could find in the kata. Does kata have a place in your current study and practice?
(GT) Not any more but I did enjoy it very much. People often talk about the fact that kata is unrealistic, just as they say that the patterns in Gung Fu and Judo are unrealistic, or the Ram Muay in Thai. But I don’t agree. I don’t actually think the critics know what they are looking at or talking about. Personally I never imagined that kata was meant to be the schematic for a real fight. Outside the chippy, people do not put down their haddocks and queue up to attack you one at a time in a set format. It would be naïve to believe that, even more naïve for the critics to think that experienced karateka would imagine it to be true. I think kata is much more than that. It taught me movement, co-ordination, balance, power, timing, momentum, projection, intent, distancing, Kime, breathing, visualisation, stamina, musculature, a sinewy mentality – I could go on. Kata was my grand foundation for when I later expanded into different arts, different branches of the Shotokan tree. I let got of the formal practice of kata but the benefits are rooted in every single thing I do. Many great Martial Artists find their way through kata, and I respect that.
(ER) What was your favourite kata?
(GT) Sochin probably. I liked the sheer power, the deep stances, the breathing, and even sitting here now I can still feel the satisfaction of that last kiai point. I loved it. It suited me very much. But I have to tell you here and now that I was not a great karateka. I was keen, I trained hard but it was only later, when I gave up my job and trained full time with world-class people that I took my art to the higher echelons. In the early days I was a good solid club player, that’s all. I was very powerful because I was committed and able to captain and direct my fear, but I was not very pretty to watch, the aesthetics were not splendid like Frank or Terry, my control was not the best either and my competition was pretty awful. But even with all my inadequacies, I used to scare the shit out of people with my very strong intent, especially my kiai. Later on the doors I developed this spirit to the point where I could defeat a dance floor full of potential attackers just with my voice.
(ER) You mentioned that your training has become more of a metaphysical animal day now. Can you explain what you mean by this? How has your training changed and developed over the years?
(GT) Yes, of course, but if I could first explain why and how I got to that place I think it might help. When I got to 5th dan many years ago, what they call the master grade, physically I was there and I was happy. I had taken my bones into the forge and had them tempered. But emotionally and spiritually I did not feel like a master. Actually I did not even feel like a master physically and physiologically because I was still struggling with real basics like palate control, and I was still carrying more addictions that you could shake a stick at. I was no more a master of myself than I was an astronaut. All of my training career I had been searching for self-sovereignty, and the physical animal days had taken me a long way towards it, but at that time all I had mastered was the ability to handle combat and combative fear. Outside of that I was still a neophyte. This was a hard realisation. I felt like a bit of a fraud. So I took my animal training to the next level (the internal Jihad) where my opponents were the addictions that sapped most of my power. I had always considered myself to be (what the Sufi poet Rumi called) a night-traveller, in that I went outside, into the night, in search of my fears in order to face down and overcome them. I intended to master myself. And I did do this. But now it was time for the real battle, the internal wrastle. I reversed the process. Instead of going out, I started to go in. I hunted down all my shadows; anger, greed, envy, jealousy, lust etc. and I faced them one by one until I mastered them. I unearthed my addictions, and I took a hammer to them also. I hunted all the pornography in my life (and it might be said that anything outside of homeostasis is pornography) and battered in back into moderation. This took a lot of self-honesty, because most addictions hide themselves under the warm cloak of denial and rationalisation. It is easier to say ‘I drink moderately’ than it is to say ‘I have a problem with drink.’ It is deliciously tempting to say coïtusual pornography is natural than it is to admit that - physiologically speaking – any pornography acts as a damaging caustic on the body and mind. (I know that this might seem peripheral to Martial Arts, but to me it is integral. Could you call yourself a master mechanic simply because you have learned how to put petrol in your car and drive from A to B?) Also, what you ingest (food, drink, drugs, conversation, environment etc) has a huge effect on the adrenals, and if the adrenals are constantly triggered it makes you predatory. And if you are predatory you are aggressive. And aggressive people attract aggressive people and aggressive situations. That, from my experience is fact. When I look back to the days that I was fighting in nightclubs on a weekly, sometimes daily basis, I can see that the reason I was fighting so much was not because I was a victim, or that the world was conspiring against me, rather it was because I was a beacon that attracted fighting. All I thought about, all I talked about, all I read about and watched and lived and breathed was violence. It was my raison d’être. I had weapons in every room of my house, even the smallest room. Violence was not happening in spite of me, it was happening because of me. I was creating it. Whether you read the Testament, the Guru Guran Sahb, the Upanishads, or the Divine Comedy they all tell you the same thing; what we think about emotively and consistently we will create. My life is testament to that, my experiences are my gospel and they cross reference with all the great tomes. Metaphysical self-defence then is realising this and doing something about it. Learning to understand the basics of personal creation (like mastering Kihon) and then learning to direct and mould personal creation. So instead of thinking, talking and reading about violence, I started to think, talk, read and live peaceful thoughts, creative anabolic thoughts, emotive thoughts that add to the world, not take away from it. The subject demands a book in itself really so I won’t go on, but suffice to say that what excites me most about Martial Arts, what inspires me to explore and investigate it is not becoming a good fighter, what really excites me is the challenge of learning to know myself and my massive, massive potential, and then capitalising on that potential. If it was just about the physical I’d have lost interest twenty years ago.
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