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Zijn er hier mensen die ervaring hbben met Halotestin? (of iemand kennen die dat heeft)

wil dit namelijk echt een keer gaan proberen als ik het nog kan vinden :o
 

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Pfff bro,zo vreselijke troep.Vind het echt het laatste middel om knoeperhard op de buhne te staan,maar anders geef mijn portie maar aan fikkie.......oh nee das zielig....prullebak dan maar
 

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Hmz voor athleten is het wel goed spul!

Halotestin
(fluoxymesterone)
Halotestin (Fluoxymesteron) is legendary among powerlifters and strength athletes. The mere word conjures up images of little mint colored pills that turn Dr. Jeckyl instantly into Mr.Hyde. Since I´m generally Mr.Hyde 24/7 this isn´t of much concern to me.. but lets see what else Halotestin can do for us.

If you´re anything like me, the first thing you´ll notice is Halotestin´s absurd Anabolic and Androgenic rating. This stuff is 19x as anabolic as testosterone and 8.5x as androgenic! Whoa! I have to admit, those numbers are a bit deceiving, and through personal experience, I can say that Halotestin will not put anywhere near as much muscle on you as testosterone. Let´s take a closer look at Halo and see what kind of realistic effects we can expect from it, and what kind of side effects we´ll be dealing with.

Firstly, I have to admit that I love this stuff, and generally its use in athletics and powerlifting is far more pronounced than it´s use in bodybuilding, where it is basically a one-trick-wonder used in the final weeks before a contest to harden up an already lean physique and give the user some added aggression during the final calorie depleted workouts before a contest. Halo has no estrogenic activity, and thus will not cause any kind of water retention or most of the bad effects associated with estrogen. It is however hepatoxic (liver toxic) (13) and I recommend keeping doses at or around 40mgs/day for a maximum of 4-6 weeks. If you are using it for it´s pronounced effect on aggression, you can simply use 10mgs prior to a workout, I personally prefer 10mgs upon rising and 10mgs prior to a workout, during the most intense weeks of a bulking or cutting cycle. This does (as you will see later) can be used with minimum HPTA inhibition.

Effects of Halotestin
Halotestin also has a volumizing effect on the physique, and for those with low a body fat percentage, this will cause an immediately more contest ready appearance. This is due, at least in part, to Halo´s ability to increase mean hematocrit with and hemoglobin level as well as red cell mass (4)(5)(6). Halotestin also appears to act through cells already committed to respond to erythropoietin (11), which is good news for athletes, of course. As you can see, Halo has quite a profound effect on red blood cell production, and this action is clearly one of the most obvious mechanisms by which it is thought to exert its effects with regards to increasing strength and energy levels. It also points to the possibility of using it for athletics and sports where a high VO2 max is needed, such as Rugby, Mixed Martial Arts, etc..
It also exerts its effects on strength and fat loss by both regulation of fatty acid oxidation in the liver and fast-twitch muscle mitochondria (2). Oddly, for a drug which exerts such a nice anabolic effect, and promotes such good strength gains, it has a pretty low Androgen Receptor Binding affinity (14).. I suppose, in this respect it can be compared to Winstrol (Stanozolol).

As far as strength and agression goes, Halo is a great drug. It is especially useful on a cutting or strength cycle. It´s use for mass and weight gains have been pretty disappointing for most users, however.

Fluoxymesterone administration is (unfortunately) accompanied by a reduction in thyroid binding globulin which causes associated decreases in T3, while the free T4 index remained totally unaltered; thus implying that thyroid function was unchanged. Remember, many anabolic steroids (notably Trenbolone) lower your T3 levels. In addition, during fluoxymesterone administration, there was a reduction in testosterone, gonadotropins and LH response to LHRH. Basal TSH did not vary, but there was a reduction in the peak and integrated TSH response to TRH. PRL levels tend to remain unchanged during fluoxymesterone use (8). Halo is of course suppressive to your HPTA, but I´ve found that in some studies where measurements were made of serum FSH, LH, testosterone, up to 20mgs per day of Halo did not suppress them measurably (9). This could possibly indicate the use of up to 20mgs/day of Halotestin without being in any great danger of suppressing endogenous hormones.

Halotestin as Steroid
Anyway, Halotestin is a testosterone derived steroid, and has an 11-beta group attached to it to inhibit aromatization, although it is particularly prone to being 5-alpha-reduced and may thus cause DHT related side effects, such as acne and hair loss. It is metabolized primarily by 6 beta-hydroxylation, 4-ene-reduction, 3-keto-reduction, and 11-hydroxy-oxidation. We know this by the identification of 4 particular metabolites and the tentative identification of at least 3 other metabolites. Detection of Halo in urine is possible for at least 5 days after a single 10 mg oral dose to previously untreated adult males, by monitoring the presence of 2 metabolites, since the parent drug is not detectable more than 1 day after the dose(12). However, the moral-compass of the athletic world, the IOC, has developed a test for fluoxymesterone metabolites that will detect them for up to 2 months after cessation of use.

This item is not in high demand in bodybuilding except for as a pre-contest drug, and would more likely be found circulating in Athletic and Powerlifting circles, where it is more commonly used in a cycle.
Halotestin (Fluoxymesteron) Profile
[9-alpha-fluoro-11-beta-hydroxy-17-alpha-methyl-4-androstene-3-one,17b-ol]
Molecular Weight: 336.4457
Formula: C20 H29 F O3
Melting Point: 240C
Manufacturer: Upjohn, Various
Date Released: 1957
Effective Dose:10-40mgs/day
Active life:6-8 hours
Detection Time: 2 months
Anabolic/Androgenic ratio:1,900/850

References:

Treatment with anabolic steroids increases the activity of the mitochondrial outer carnitine palmitoyltransferase in rat liver and fast-twitch muscle. Biochem Pharmacol. 1991 Mar 1;41(5):833-5.
Effects of synthetic androgen fluoxymesterone on triglyceride secretion rates in the rat.Proc Soc Exp Biol Med. 1975 Jun;149(2):452-4.
Metabolism of anabolic steroids in humans: synthesis of 6 beta-hydroxy metabolites of 4-chloro-1,2-dehydro-17 alpha-methyltestosterone, fluoxymesterone, and metandienone. Steroids. 1995 Apr;60(4):353-66.
Influence of fluoxymesterone on in vitro erythropoiesis affected by leukemic cells.Exp Hematol. 1984 Mar;12(3):171-6.
[Erythropoietin in serum and urine in healthy persons and patients with chronic renal disease upon hypoxic stimulation and hypoxic stimulation after pretreatment with fluoxymesterone (author´s transl)]
Fluoxymesterone therapy in anemia of patients on maintenance hemodialysis: comparison between patients with kidneys and anephric patients. J Dial. 1977;1(4):357-66
Combination hormonal therapy with tamoxifen plus fluoxymesterone versus tamoxifen alone in postmenopausal women with metastatic breast cancer. An updated analysis.Cancer. 1991 Feb 15;67(4):886-91.
Effect of non aromatizable androgens on LHRH and TRH responses in primary testicular failure.Horm Metab Res. 1984 Sep;16(9):492-7.
The effect of synthetic androgens on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis in boys with constitutionally delayed growth. J Pediatr. 1979 Apr;94(4):657-62.
The effect of synthetic androgens on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis in boys with constitutionally delayed growth. J Pediatr. 1979 Apr;94(4):657-62.
Steroids and hematopoiesis. II. The effect of steroids on in vitro erythroid colony growth: evidence for different target cells for different classes of steroids. J Cell Physiol. 1976 Jun;88(2):135-43.
Testing for fluoxymesterone (Halotestin) administration to man: identification of urinary metabolites by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry. J Steroid Biochem. 1990 Aug 28;36(6):659-66.
Toxic effects of anabolic-androgenic steroids in primary rat hepatic cell cultures. J Pharmacol Toxicol Methods. 1995 Aug;33(4):187-95.
Relative binding affinity of anabolic-androgenic steroids: comparison of the binding to the androgen receptors in skeletal muscle and in prostate, as well as to coïtus hormone-binding globulin.Endocrinology. 1984 Jun;114(6):2100-6.
The relationship of androgen to the thyrotropin and prolactin responses to thyrotropin-releasing hormone in hypogonadal and normal men. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1981 Feb;52(2):173-6.
 

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Dit is toch supergiftig spul?
 

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Interessant stukje, Superspider.
Zie Halotestin vaak wel langskomen op MMA boards, Joop Kasteel heeft er op BR ook eens over verteld meen ik.
 

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Interessant stukje, Superspider.
Zie Halotestin vaak wel langskomen op MMA boards, Joop Kasteel heeft er op BR ook eens over verteld meen ik.

ja, bij MMA is het heel populair! Terecht ook é, meer agressie, uithouding en kracht.
 

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Ik heb tijdje geleden ook onderzoek gedaan naar ervaringen van gebruikers, meeste mensen waren er over te spreken. Dus zo slecht als Krieltje beweert zal het niet zijn.
 

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Zal de meerderheid van de eventuele gebruikers die er niet over te spreken zijn, het wel op de boards zetten?
 

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Waarom zouden ze het niet doen? Als iemand een dagboek gaat houden over bepaald product. Na een tijdje komt hij er achter dat het niets is, dan zal hij waarschijnlijk dat ook vermelden.
 

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So far, so good," you will say, but unfortunately, this is not so since Halotestin is a very toxic steroid. Besides Anadrol 50 and Methyltestosterone it is the oral steroid with the most side effects. Those who would like to try Halotestin should limit the intake to 4-6 weeks and take no more than 20-30 mg daily Fluoxymesterone puts extremely high stress on the liver and is thus potentially liver damaging. Other frequently- observed side effects are increased pro-duction of the sebaceous gland (which goes hand in hand with acne), nasal bleeding, headaches, gastrointestinal pain, and reduced pro-duction of the body's own hormones. Men become easily irritable and aggressive. Gynecomastia and high blood pressure caused by edemas do not occur with Halotestin. Do not be surprised, however, when on Halotestin's package insert you read the words "gynecomastia" and "edemas." This standard warning, due to legal provisions, is included in all strong androgenic steroids. Women should avoid Halotestin since it can cause substantol and in part irreversible virilization symptoms

gewoon lekker nemen joh
 

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So far, so good," you will say, but unfortunately, this is not so since Halotestin is a very toxic steroid. Besides Anadrol 50 and Methyltestosterone it is the oral steroid with the most side effects. Those who would like to try Halotestin should limit the intake to 4-6 weeks and take no more than 20-30 mg daily Fluoxymesterone puts extremely high stress on the liver and is thus potentially liver damaging. Other frequently- observed side effects are increased pro-duction of the sebaceous gland (which goes hand in hand with acne), nasal bleeding, headaches, gastrointestinal pain, and reduced pro-duction of the body's own hormones. Men become easily irritable and aggressive. Gynecomastia and high blood pressure caused by edemas do not occur with Halotestin. Do not be surprised, however, when on Halotestin's package insert you read the words "gynecomastia" and "edemas." This standard warning, due to legal provisions, is included in all strong androgenic steroids. Women should avoid Halotestin since it can cause substantol and in part irreversible virilization symptoms

gewoon lekker nemen joh

ik kom hier halotestin niet verdedigen want heb het nog nooit gebruikt en ga het ook nooit gebruiken.
maar zoals bovenstaande quote kan je over elke steroide wel een heel negatief stukje uitleg op internet vinden hoor
 

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ik kom hier halotestin niet verdedigen want heb het nog nooit gebruikt en ga het ook nooit gebruiken.
maar zoals bovenstaande quote kan je over elke steroide wel een heel negatief stukje uitleg op internet vinden hoor


oral parabolan,halotestin,zijn BEIDE erg toxisch,niet omdat ze 17aa zijn,maar gewoon bekend om hun agressie.
Rest kan niet eens in de schaduw staan.

A rare, but potentially serious side effect of fluoxymesterone is the development of hepatic adenomas (liver tumors), hepatocellular cancer (liver cancer) or other liver problems.

nog eentje:

Abnormal drug-seeking behavior is possible with this medication, and it is frequently misused for its muscle-enhancing effects. Do not increase your dose, take it more frequently, or take it for a longer time than prescribed. Doing so may increase serious side effects (e.g., increased risk for heart disease/heart failure/stroke/liver disease, ruptured tendons/ligaments, improper bone development in adolescents). Properly stop the medication when so directed.

Tell your doctor if your condition persists or worsens after at least 1 month of treatment.




Brrrrr mischien on longterm use en high doses,maar vindt het maar nix
 
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@ krieltje, probeer me nou niet te bekeren, als ik het kan vinden neem ik het toch wel, ik vroeg om ervaringen! copypasten kan ik zelf ook
 

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@ krieltje, probeer me nou niet te bekeren, als ik het kan vinden neem ik het toch wel, ik vroeg om ervaringen! copypasten kan ik zelf ook

Ga je gang bro,tis alleen een waarschuwing meer niet
 

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zo ver ik kan lezen is er maar een iets meer lever toxies als halotestin
en dat is Oxymetholone ( anadrol ) je wordt er rete hard van maar verder van binnen rot je weg
 

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goed middel om ziekelijk agressief te worden en extra spice te hebben voor de cut :D
voor de rest niet zo'n bijzondere middel in BB. Bij pl en mma hebben ze wel meer baat bij.
 

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@ krieltje, probeer me nou niet te bekeren, als ik het kan vinden neem ik het toch wel, ik vroeg om ervaringen! copypasten kan ik zelf ook

dareal doe het nou toch niet man, het is zo slecht voor je,

je komt toch niet boven de 20.0 kg bench uit!

;)

aantal maatjes van me hebben Halo gedaan,
het zelfde wat ze allemaal zeggen, het haalt het beest in je naar voren,
je ware aard komt naar boven!

daarentegen, werden ze wel super sterk.. zorg maar dat je alleen woont, dat je 4 weken vrij heb van je werk, en dat de sportschool leeg is als je gaat trainen, ohja, laat je in het weekend vast ketenen!
 

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goed middel om ziekelijk agressief te worden en extra spice te hebben voor de cut :D
voor de rest niet zo'n bijzondere middel in BB. Bij pl en mma hebben ze wel meer baat bij.

Dareal doet het niet voor BB.
 

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Halotestin (Fluoxymesteron) is legendary among powerlifters and strength athletes. The mere word conjures up images of little mint colored pills that turn Dr. Jeckyl instantly into Mr.Hyde. Since I´m generally Mr.Hyde 24/7 this isn´t of much concern to me.. but lets see what else Halotestin can do for us.

hehe
 

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