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Wat is jullie favoriete rocky film?
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Beste film is natuurlijk rocky 1. Maar ik haak even in op Rocky 5, de tegenstander van rocky is dan Tommy gunn. Maar wat weinigen van jullie zullen weten is dat Tommie Gunn echt wereldkampioen boksen is geweest en wel in the heavyweight division. Zijn echte naam luid dan ook: Tommy Morrison. Hij heeft verscheiden malen om de echte Heavy weight title gevochten en niet tegen de minste: Ray mercer, George Foreman en Lennox Lewis. De groten der groten dus. Zijn record is dan ook niet onverdienstelijk: 47 winst(41ko's)
en 3 verloren en 1 onbeslist. Tommy bokste in 1996 voor de laaste keer, hij was zero positief bevonden aan HIV, aids dus. Tommy was toen pas 28 jaar oud. Hoe opmerklijk was het nieuws in 2007 dat Tommy jarenlang verkeerd gediagnoseerd was en hij helemaal nooit zero positief was geweest. Tommy keerde net alsof het de normaalste zaak van de wereld was na 11!! jaar weer terug in de ring. Dit gebeuren vond plaats op 2007-02-22 in de VS tegen John castle. Tommy sloeg john met een linker hoek in de 2e ronde tegen het canvas. Al met al mijn beste mede dbb'ers heeft de man een aardig verhaal te vertellen op menig verjaardagsfeestje. Genoeg om een aardig boek te vullen althans. Maar de info hierboven was niet de echte reden om dit stukje te schrijven op dbb. Want we zitten op een bodybuilding forum, nietwaar? Behalve wereldkampioen boksen en acteur was Tommy ook een uitgesproken gebruiker van Steroids/AAs. Hieronder dan nog een paar hoogtepunten van tommy en een interview uit 2005 waarin hij praat over zijn AAs gebruik gedurende zijn carriere.
YouTube - Tommy Morrison -vs- James Tillis
YouTube - Tommy Morrison vs David Jaco
SN: Tommy, you have always been very open about the fact that during much of your professional boxing career, you used steroids. Can you tell us when you started using them?
I can tell you when, but I won't say how (laughs). Actually, I got into them a little bit in high school, but it was more in the pills, the oral stuff. The injections and stuff wasn't until later. As far as my professional career, probably around 1991. I used them not while I was training, but in between bouts. I just want to make sure that is clear.
SN: What kind of steroids did you stack and in what dosages?
Usually a CC of whatever I was taking. A lot of times they were oral, some of them weren't, in the off time. The benefits were that it made me more aggressive, like I needed that (laughs). It made me more aggressive in every area of my life. I never went over the edge, though, like some guys you hear about. I want everyone to know though, and I learned early, that if you're going to do it, you have to keep a cool head.
SN: What changes did you notice when you began using steroids?
You become bigger, faster, and stronger. That's the reason why everyone does it. In order to compete, you have to do it too. That's not something that was talked about, but I guarantee you that it was never tested, so hell yeah people are going to do it.
SN: How do you think steroids would aid a professional boxer, or any athlete in general?
Like I said, it just makes you bigger, faster, and stronger. It helps with your endurance also, your recovery time between rounds. You recover faster when you have that stuff in your system. The flip side of that is that if you go over your boundaries, push yourself beyond your limit, you'll never recover. That's why it's important that while you do it, you have to train, you have to work out.
SN: In his book "Juiced," Jose Canseco reveals that he doesn't believe that he would have even made it to the major leagues without the benefit of steroids. How far do you think you would have gone in professional boxing without them?
I wouldn't have gone as far as I did, I guarantee you that. I probably would have fought as a cruiserweight. When I was in training, if I didn't have that extra fifteen to twenty pounds, I would have fought there. I always had the power and the speed, I just needed the endurance, which was my problem.
SN: How were you able to avoid testing positive for steroid use during your career?
Because they didn't test for steroids back then. They do now, I don't know why, but they do. It's very expensive, and from what I hear, when they test for something, they have to test for a specific type of steroid. So if they don't know what they're testing for, they won't figure out what you're on, unless you just offered it up to them.
SN: What is your opinion on the current steroid controversy surrounding Major League Baseball? Is it much ado about nothing, or should strict measures be taken to eliminate the use of performance enhancing substances?
I think that in a professional sport the athlete should be able to do what the hell they want. People need to just back off and let them be what they want to be. That's why people spend the money to go to the ballpark in the first place, to see somebody jack one out. If they jack one out, maybe more people come to the ballpark, and maybe they'll make more money. Know what I mean? That's it, in a nutshell. College players, high school players, no it doesn't set a good example, but those guys didn't ask to be examples, they didn't ask to be role models. They just are. They're just trying to do what's best for them, and everyone needs to stay out of their business.
SN: Do you think that asterisks should be added to the numerous records that have been set in what has become known as "The Steroid Era" in baseball?
Well you don't know what those guys back in the old days were doing who set the records. Without positive proof, I don't see how they could do something like that.
SN: While taking steroids or in the years since your boxing career ended, have you had any noticeable side effects or health problems as a result of your use? How do you explain the untimely deaths of some athletes and former athletes who have died from problems allegedly brought on by steroids?
Not one problem. Matter of fact, I still take testosterone as part of my HIV treatment. As far as athletes, when I used them, I used them under a doctor's supervision, and I knew a lot about them anyway. I learned a lot along the way. So if you are going to do it, you have to do it the right way.
SN: Have there ever been any boxers that you knew were taking steroids while you were fighting?
Well, there's no doubt some people were taking them, but I can't name any names for you. I definitely know about some of the top fighters, though. But just because you take them, doesn't mean you're going to get better. You have to know how to take them, or what to do while you're taking them, or otherwise it would just be a waste. But I want to reiterate what I said before, in a professional sport you should just be left alone. That's why people pay the big bucks to sit ringside at a heavyweight championship fight, they want to see somebody get hurt. People love violence, so call a spade a spade. Let 'em go, let 'em do what they want. It's not about what kind of example we're setting for our children, because it's gonna be twenty ****ing years before they are even playing baseball or whatever. So they'll grow a brain between now and then, and by then it will be forgotten.
SN: Did you ever feel like you were cheating by using steroids?
Hell no. I thought I was doing myself and my family a service. I was making myself a bigger and stronger person, and I loved it. It made me feel like in the morning when I got out of bed I wanted to tear down the wall. I was snorting like a bull, walking around the house. I wanted to bang everything that moved. (Laughs)
SN: What do you say in response to those who argue that a fighter or player who does not use steroids is almost pressured into taking them for fear of not being able to compete on a level playing field?
I never did it out of a fear that I couldn't compete, I just looked at it as bettering my chances. I looked around and from what I saw, everybody was doing the same shit. It wasn't something that was talked about openly, but when you looked around you could tell. Takes one to know one, you know?
en 3 verloren en 1 onbeslist. Tommy bokste in 1996 voor de laaste keer, hij was zero positief bevonden aan HIV, aids dus. Tommy was toen pas 28 jaar oud. Hoe opmerklijk was het nieuws in 2007 dat Tommy jarenlang verkeerd gediagnoseerd was en hij helemaal nooit zero positief was geweest. Tommy keerde net alsof het de normaalste zaak van de wereld was na 11!! jaar weer terug in de ring. Dit gebeuren vond plaats op 2007-02-22 in de VS tegen John castle. Tommy sloeg john met een linker hoek in de 2e ronde tegen het canvas. Al met al mijn beste mede dbb'ers heeft de man een aardig verhaal te vertellen op menig verjaardagsfeestje. Genoeg om een aardig boek te vullen althans. Maar de info hierboven was niet de echte reden om dit stukje te schrijven op dbb. Want we zitten op een bodybuilding forum, nietwaar? Behalve wereldkampioen boksen en acteur was Tommy ook een uitgesproken gebruiker van Steroids/AAs. Hieronder dan nog een paar hoogtepunten van tommy en een interview uit 2005 waarin hij praat over zijn AAs gebruik gedurende zijn carriere.
YouTube - Tommy Morrison -vs- James Tillis
YouTube - Tommy Morrison vs David Jaco
SN: Tommy, you have always been very open about the fact that during much of your professional boxing career, you used steroids. Can you tell us when you started using them?
I can tell you when, but I won't say how (laughs). Actually, I got into them a little bit in high school, but it was more in the pills, the oral stuff. The injections and stuff wasn't until later. As far as my professional career, probably around 1991. I used them not while I was training, but in between bouts. I just want to make sure that is clear.
SN: What kind of steroids did you stack and in what dosages?
Usually a CC of whatever I was taking. A lot of times they were oral, some of them weren't, in the off time. The benefits were that it made me more aggressive, like I needed that (laughs). It made me more aggressive in every area of my life. I never went over the edge, though, like some guys you hear about. I want everyone to know though, and I learned early, that if you're going to do it, you have to keep a cool head.
SN: What changes did you notice when you began using steroids?
You become bigger, faster, and stronger. That's the reason why everyone does it. In order to compete, you have to do it too. That's not something that was talked about, but I guarantee you that it was never tested, so hell yeah people are going to do it.
SN: How do you think steroids would aid a professional boxer, or any athlete in general?
Like I said, it just makes you bigger, faster, and stronger. It helps with your endurance also, your recovery time between rounds. You recover faster when you have that stuff in your system. The flip side of that is that if you go over your boundaries, push yourself beyond your limit, you'll never recover. That's why it's important that while you do it, you have to train, you have to work out.
SN: In his book "Juiced," Jose Canseco reveals that he doesn't believe that he would have even made it to the major leagues without the benefit of steroids. How far do you think you would have gone in professional boxing without them?
I wouldn't have gone as far as I did, I guarantee you that. I probably would have fought as a cruiserweight. When I was in training, if I didn't have that extra fifteen to twenty pounds, I would have fought there. I always had the power and the speed, I just needed the endurance, which was my problem.
SN: How were you able to avoid testing positive for steroid use during your career?
Because they didn't test for steroids back then. They do now, I don't know why, but they do. It's very expensive, and from what I hear, when they test for something, they have to test for a specific type of steroid. So if they don't know what they're testing for, they won't figure out what you're on, unless you just offered it up to them.
SN: What is your opinion on the current steroid controversy surrounding Major League Baseball? Is it much ado about nothing, or should strict measures be taken to eliminate the use of performance enhancing substances?
I think that in a professional sport the athlete should be able to do what the hell they want. People need to just back off and let them be what they want to be. That's why people spend the money to go to the ballpark in the first place, to see somebody jack one out. If they jack one out, maybe more people come to the ballpark, and maybe they'll make more money. Know what I mean? That's it, in a nutshell. College players, high school players, no it doesn't set a good example, but those guys didn't ask to be examples, they didn't ask to be role models. They just are. They're just trying to do what's best for them, and everyone needs to stay out of their business.
SN: Do you think that asterisks should be added to the numerous records that have been set in what has become known as "The Steroid Era" in baseball?
Well you don't know what those guys back in the old days were doing who set the records. Without positive proof, I don't see how they could do something like that.
SN: While taking steroids or in the years since your boxing career ended, have you had any noticeable side effects or health problems as a result of your use? How do you explain the untimely deaths of some athletes and former athletes who have died from problems allegedly brought on by steroids?
Not one problem. Matter of fact, I still take testosterone as part of my HIV treatment. As far as athletes, when I used them, I used them under a doctor's supervision, and I knew a lot about them anyway. I learned a lot along the way. So if you are going to do it, you have to do it the right way.
SN: Have there ever been any boxers that you knew were taking steroids while you were fighting?
Well, there's no doubt some people were taking them, but I can't name any names for you. I definitely know about some of the top fighters, though. But just because you take them, doesn't mean you're going to get better. You have to know how to take them, or what to do while you're taking them, or otherwise it would just be a waste. But I want to reiterate what I said before, in a professional sport you should just be left alone. That's why people pay the big bucks to sit ringside at a heavyweight championship fight, they want to see somebody get hurt. People love violence, so call a spade a spade. Let 'em go, let 'em do what they want. It's not about what kind of example we're setting for our children, because it's gonna be twenty ****ing years before they are even playing baseball or whatever. So they'll grow a brain between now and then, and by then it will be forgotten.
SN: Did you ever feel like you were cheating by using steroids?
Hell no. I thought I was doing myself and my family a service. I was making myself a bigger and stronger person, and I loved it. It made me feel like in the morning when I got out of bed I wanted to tear down the wall. I was snorting like a bull, walking around the house. I wanted to bang everything that moved. (Laughs)
SN: What do you say in response to those who argue that a fighter or player who does not use steroids is almost pressured into taking them for fear of not being able to compete on a level playing field?
I never did it out of a fear that I couldn't compete, I just looked at it as bettering my chances. I looked around and from what I saw, everybody was doing the same shit. It wasn't something that was talked about openly, but when you looked around you could tell. Takes one to know one, you know?
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De mogelijkheden zijn eindeloos, er kunnen nog wel 10 afleveringen volgen.
ontopic: deel 1
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Manny Ribera
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Het einde, het gevecht maakt gewoon alles goed, bro.
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Maar de Rocky fans denken er anders over gezien de resultaten van de poll.
