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Tren-E Capsules 3x90mg per dag
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ik heb zelf geen ervaring met deze oral (tren is niet mijn ding), maar op us boards zijn ze er weg van, alleen de dosis wordt in mcg weer gegeven.
een ug brand die dit product verkoopt die heeft er een beschrijving van staan.
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Oral Tren (methyltrienolone) is a form of the popular steriod Trenbolone which has been modified to become orally active.
Trenbolone is the most powerful overall steroid in use by bodybuilders today. Tren, as it is often called, is both highly androgenic and anabolic. It is chemically unable to aromatize, and therefore produces no estrogen buildup. This, along with its high androgenic properties, makes the muscle produced by this drug very hard and defined.
Trenbolone first got its reputation when it was used in the legendary steroid, Parabolan. Users of this drug often noted dramatic results that were nothing short of amazing, and after it was unfortunately discontinued, the remembered effects of the substance gave it cult like status and the market was flooded with bunk Parabolan amps by those looking to profit off the extreme popularity and fan base that this steriod's incredible results had sparked.
Trenbolone was also used in cattle implant pellets, where the substance was used to increase the lean mass of the cattle, while reducing the fat on the animals. Kits became widely available on the internet allowing bodybuilders to convert these pellets into injectable solution. Fina, as this homebrew oil was often called, quickly became a favorite of steroid users, like its relative, Parabolan, had done many years before.
Oral Tren can be liver toxic and users should keep usage of this product to reasonable dosages and time frames. Typically 1-2 (250mcg) tablets of Oral Tren for two to three weeks. Because of its strong androgenic properties, Oral Tren should not be used by women.
een ug brand die dit product verkoopt die heeft er een beschrijving van staan.
zie hier
Oral Tren (methyltrienolone) is a form of the popular steriod Trenbolone which has been modified to become orally active.
Trenbolone is the most powerful overall steroid in use by bodybuilders today. Tren, as it is often called, is both highly androgenic and anabolic. It is chemically unable to aromatize, and therefore produces no estrogen buildup. This, along with its high androgenic properties, makes the muscle produced by this drug very hard and defined.
Trenbolone first got its reputation when it was used in the legendary steroid, Parabolan. Users of this drug often noted dramatic results that were nothing short of amazing, and after it was unfortunately discontinued, the remembered effects of the substance gave it cult like status and the market was flooded with bunk Parabolan amps by those looking to profit off the extreme popularity and fan base that this steriod's incredible results had sparked.
Trenbolone was also used in cattle implant pellets, where the substance was used to increase the lean mass of the cattle, while reducing the fat on the animals. Kits became widely available on the internet allowing bodybuilders to convert these pellets into injectable solution. Fina, as this homebrew oil was often called, quickly became a favorite of steroid users, like its relative, Parabolan, had done many years before.
Oral Tren can be liver toxic and users should keep usage of this product to reasonable dosages and time frames. Typically 1-2 (250mcg) tablets of Oral Tren for two to three weeks. Because of its strong androgenic properties, Oral Tren should not be used by women.
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Stukje van Big Cat over methyltrienolone:
Characteristics:
Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity. Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. While I was unable to find anything in the literature that describes the extent of the liver toxicity, it's a generally accepted fact. That's also why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.
Mainly because (and those who wish it was available will wish so even more now) its such a potent androgen. There is some conflicting information in that regard however. Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever, and that statement has been blown out of proportion and taken on a life of its own. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. A group that has the tendency to actually reduce the androgenic potency. So it may actually be somewhat milder than trenbolone, on the contrary to what many pseudo steroid guru's are now claiming after reading Pat Arnold's statement. I can't find any other documented effects of the 17-alpha-alkylation influencing androgen binding in a positive way. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2, but the study that claims that is mild at the very best about quantifications, whereas people have used the term 1000 times more powerful than testosterone, which is surely exaggerated.
What is interesting is that it seems to show nearly no binding for coïtus-hormone binding proteins, which makes it a popular choice in androgen receptor studies3, since it will demonstrate equal binding in all tissues regardless of the presence and amount of these proteins. No doubt this plays a role in its supposed binding capacity. In this instance the 17-alpha-alkylation may have played a key role, since it has been demonstrated a multitude of times that 17-alpha-methyl groups decrease the binding for coïtus-hormone binding proteins as well as most other structures, and due to its triple double bond, trenbolone really didn't bind well to these to begin with.
One of the findings made in clinical tests with methyltrienolone was the discovery of high amounts of the DHT-deactivating enzyme 3alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue4. Once again proof that God meant to keep us humans weak. Hurray for science. Follow-up studies then went on to show that DHT nonetheless showed similar binding in the prostate, and showing little or no presence of the deactivating enzyme. So God would rather have us all die of prostate cancer than gain a few ounces of muscle. It's a comforting thought, no?
What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our coïtus drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca d*ck (temporary impotence) is a very real threat5. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor3. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen or an estrogen.
While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.
Stacking and Use:
Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.
Of course the best advice is to refrain from using such a compound, although for 99% of the population that is not a problem, and I would assume that the 1% that does have access would know better.
Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity. Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. While I was unable to find anything in the literature that describes the extent of the liver toxicity, it's a generally accepted fact. That's also why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.
Mainly because (and those who wish it was available will wish so even more now) its such a potent androgen. There is some conflicting information in that regard however. Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever, and that statement has been blown out of proportion and taken on a life of its own. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. A group that has the tendency to actually reduce the androgenic potency. So it may actually be somewhat milder than trenbolone, on the contrary to what many pseudo steroid guru's are now claiming after reading Pat Arnold's statement. I can't find any other documented effects of the 17-alpha-alkylation influencing androgen binding in a positive way. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2, but the study that claims that is mild at the very best about quantifications, whereas people have used the term 1000 times more powerful than testosterone, which is surely exaggerated.
What is interesting is that it seems to show nearly no binding for coïtus-hormone binding proteins, which makes it a popular choice in androgen receptor studies3, since it will demonstrate equal binding in all tissues regardless of the presence and amount of these proteins. No doubt this plays a role in its supposed binding capacity. In this instance the 17-alpha-alkylation may have played a key role, since it has been demonstrated a multitude of times that 17-alpha-methyl groups decrease the binding for coïtus-hormone binding proteins as well as most other structures, and due to its triple double bond, trenbolone really didn't bind well to these to begin with.
One of the findings made in clinical tests with methyltrienolone was the discovery of high amounts of the DHT-deactivating enzyme 3alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue4. Once again proof that God meant to keep us humans weak. Hurray for science. Follow-up studies then went on to show that DHT nonetheless showed similar binding in the prostate, and showing little or no presence of the deactivating enzyme. So God would rather have us all die of prostate cancer than gain a few ounces of muscle. It's a comforting thought, no?
What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our coïtus drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca d*ck (temporary impotence) is a very real threat5. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor3. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen or an estrogen.
While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.
Stacking and Use:
Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive: Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well.
Of course the best advice is to refrain from using such a compound, although for 99% of the population that is not a problem, and I would assume that the 1% that does have access would know better.
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Er lopen hier twee discussies door elkaar over twee stoffen. methyltrienolone, dat is echte tren met een methyl groep zodat het oraal beschikbaar is en bovendien nog veel sterker is dat injecteerbare tren. Die stof neem je in een dosis van een paar mcg en de prohormoon "tren" (wat haat ik die producenten die hun "voedingssupplementen" AAS namen geven) een dosis van 90-120mg per dag. Nu heb ik liever een discussie over methyltrienolone (nog liever zou ik een supplier vinden) maar ik denk dat het voor iemand die een prohormoon in een UK-shop gekocht heeft en niet zo heel veel kennis over AAS heeft, het allemaal wat verwarrend wordt zo.
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spuiten is altijd 3x beter.
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Ik snap niet waarom jullie het hier over trenbolone blijven hebben. Het pro-hormoon Tren-E (van bijvoorbeeld Iron Labs) waar de TS het over heeft is een pro-hormoon wat 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 bevat ook wel Estra-4,9-diene-3, 17-dione genoemd. In het lichaam zetten enzymen estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione om in dienolone of 17beta-hydroxy-estra-4,9-diene-3-one Het heeft dus niks met trenbolone te maken...
En ja, natuurlijk is spuiten beter
Maar echte AAS zijn sowieso al beter dan pro-hormonen die eerst nog omgezet moeten worden. Ze worden immers niet alleen naar de actieve AAS omgezet, maar ook naar andere stoffen.
En ja, natuurlijk is spuiten beter
Maar echte AAS zijn sowieso al beter dan pro-hormonen die eerst nog omgezet moeten worden. Ze worden immers niet alleen naar de actieve AAS omgezet, maar ook naar andere stoffen.
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2 faals in 1 topic, goed bezig.
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MT capsules is hepatoxisch bij inname van 1 capsule en het zal je bloeddruk negatiever beinvloeden. Laten we ook niet het dubbele effect vergeten op je cholestrol e.d. Injecteren is zeker ook toxisch maar minder toxisch dan tren caps that was my point mijn turkse kebabfabrikant.
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Snap dit nu eens: het gaat helemaal niet om methyltrienolone of om trenbolone, maar om een of ander k*tprohormoon met een as-like naam zoals er 13 in een dozijn zijn.
Dat is allemaal toppie voor jou dat je over methyltrienolone zit te zeiken maar dat is gewoon niet relevant voor dit topic.
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