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Elmo zei:Ik laat me graag overtuigen eerwaarde Mr J. Je weet ook dat er tal van artikelen en bijsluiters zijn die het tegendeel uitwijzen?
Kan die post van Soulreaver even niet vinden, hoop dat hij zelf even reageerd.

Je gaat een beetje te kort door de bocht. HCG is geen LH al imiteert ze wel de functie van LH.
Was kort door bocht bedoeld om eea uiteen te zetten ter veduidelijking.

En om je geliefde PubMed niet te verwaarlozen hier een citaat (artikel) uit........PubMed
Gonadotropin-induced regulation of luteinizing hormone receptors and desensitization of testicular 3':5'-cyclic AMP and testosterone responses.
Hsueh AJ, Dufau ML, Catt KJ.
Administration of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) to male rats was followed by dose-related changes in luteinizing hormone (LH) receptors in the testis. After treatment with a low dose of hCG (10international units), the number of LH receptors increased slightly over the first 24 hr, then fell to about 30% of the control value. These changes occurred with occupancy of only 8% of the available receptors, and were initially accompanied by increased basal testosterone production in vitro with no change in basal 3'5'-cyclic AMP production. During stimulation with hCG in vitro, such testes showed a transient decrease in cyclic AMP response on the first day after gonadotropin treatment and no change in testosterone response. By contrast, a 20-fold higher dose of hCG caused more rapid and complete loss of LH receptors, with major and transient occupancy of receptors at 24 hr and marked elevations of basal cyclic AMP and testosterone production in vitro. The initial occupancy of receptors was accompanied by a rapid fall in the cyclic AMP response to hCG in vitro, and was followed by marked receptor loss and inhibition of the cyclic AMP response for up to 5 days. The testosterone response to hCG in vitro was completely inhibited for about 3 days, then rose to the control level at 5 days, when only a small proportion of the original receptor sites and cyclic AMP response had begun to return. Such complete recovery of the steroidogenic response when only a fraction of the receptor population had returned was consistent with the presence of receptor reserve or "spare" receptors in the testis. These studies have demonstrated that negative regulation of LH receptors by exogenous gonadotropin is accompanied by consequent changes in cyclic AMP and testosterone responses to hCG in vitro. Hormone induced desensitization of interstitial cell responses was initially related to occupancy of LH receptors and later to a protracted loss of receptor sites.
PMID: 191816 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Also important to take into account : using HCG for too long a period of time or in doses that are excessively high, can desensitize the testicles to the effect of LH and would put your right back where you started from.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathcg.htm
Hmmm, beide gelijk?
Maar dan komen we bij de vraag; Wat is precies 'too long'. 4 weken? 8 weken? 8 maanden?

met frustratie van kleine ballen.In de pct (samen met antioestroos!!!!!!) 1200iu zetten dan 5 dagen later 1000 iu indien nodig doorgaan met resp.700 en 500 iu over een periode van 20 dgn totaal.Omdat je de boel met HCG ook onderdrukt moet je minimaal nog 2 weken na de laatste injectie verder gaan met de nolv en of clomid.Ik persoonlijk vindt dit beter lopen dan wat wij vroeger deden ,hcg grote hoeveelheden in korte periode er in propen.500 iu mimict de lichaams eigen uitstoot in een week na.Zie niet wat daar verkeerd aan is
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