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schildklier pijn door anabolen?

rodge zei:
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosteron and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosteron were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosteron, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosteron. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosteron levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

PMID: 2892728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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-rodge

Wat wil je hier precies mee zeggen rodge. Omdat er na een kuur zeker sprake is van severe oligospermia je beter geen gebruik kan maken van Proviron? Omdat dat je spermcount slechter hersteld?
 
rodge zei:
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosteron and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosteron were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosteron, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosteron. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosteron levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

PMID: 2892728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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-rodge


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ccnp zei:
Even de proviron nakuur discussie een stootje geven
Eindelijk weer ééntje die proviron in zijn nakuur neemt, steeds meer mensen gaan dit doen, geloof me het werkt!!!:D

Ja CCNP, en het zijn meestal de mensen die ook erg veel lezen en andere fora bezoeken.
Heb mezelf overtuigd door veel met die Yanks erover te hebben.
 
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waarom zou proviron je herstel verminderen als die een anti estrogeen is en die wordt ook niet omgezet in progesteron dus kan er geen negatieve feedback op je axis gebeuren
 
pijn aan je schildklier kan met t3 inname. slikken doet bv pijn, voelt een beetje als een ontstoken keel. mijn advies doering iets omlaag brengen. van 50mcg naar 37,5mcg deed bij mij de pijn verminderen/wegtrekken.

verder kan keelpijn ook een voorteken zijn van de androgene bijwerking vd as. zwaarder worden vd stem begint met pijn in de keel. zeker voor vrouwen zou dit t signaal moeten zijn dat ze inname van as moeten staken mochten ze geen zwaardere stem willen.
 
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