Shocking News MH7 vanuit Amsterdam neergeschoten boven Oekraïne
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Monster argumenten van Meindert.
Of de legerleiding überhaupt unaniem achter Poetin staat is geeneens relevant. Want op het einde van de dag staan ze als een blok achter Rusland.
IG Farben maakte gebruik van slavenarbeid tijdens de tweede wereldoorlog. Ze hadden onder andere een synthetische rubber fabriek (Buna-Werke) die deel uitmaakte van het Auschwitz archipel.
De fabriek die Zyklon B produceerde en leverde aan vernietigingskampen hadden ze gedeeltelijk in handen.
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Rusland gaat ons allemaal breken. wtf denkt nederland nu te kunnen beginnen tegen Rusland
kom we sturen een paar marechaussees eropaf, die worden hier niet serieus genomen maar misschien daar wel.
waarom wilt 90% van de Nederlandse bevolking een facking oorlog beginnen tegen mother Russia? we hebben niet eens fatsoenlijke tanks, straaljagers of mankracht. als rusland de gaskraan dichtdraait zitten we al met een serieus groot probleem, laat staan als we er oorlog mee voeren.
Nederlandse bevolking = geestelijk beperkt
Man, wat ben jij een dramaqueen! We komen helemaal geen oorlog voeren daar. En waar haal je in vredesnaam de wijsheid vandaag dat een overgroot deel van de Nederlandse bevolking dat wel wilt?
Ga voorwaarts vredige UFO- believer
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Man, wat ben jij een dramaqueen! We komen helemaal geen oorlog voeren daar. En waar haal je in vredesnaam de wijsheid vandaag dat een overgroot deel van de Nederlandse bevolking dat wel wilt?
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sorry ben nog space van gister:$
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Onderstaande bericht komt van onze commandant, brigadegeneraal Nico Geerts:
LUCHTMOBIEL stond klaar. In opdracht van de CDS anderhalf bataljon, brigadestaf en ondersteuning gealarmeerd. We stonden niet op stand-by, velen op verlof. Binnen 12 uur 80% van het personeel binnen, vanuit heel de wereld onderweg voor die ene opdracht in de Oekraine. Geen vragen over de opdracht en vergoedingen voor niet genoten verlof en transportkosten. Maximaal voorbereiden, spullen, wapens pakken, voertuigen gereed stellen en de staf plannen op de inzet. Korte nachten, maar veel inzet, loyaliteit en flexibiliteit. ik ben trots op mijn mensen, die zonder kikken hun gezin achterlaten op de camping en staan voor hun taak. 11 Luchtmobiele Brigade, de mannen, vrouwen en de burgers: daar kan ik op bouwen! ELK MOMENT, ELKE MISSIE
LUCHTMOBIEL stond klaar. In opdracht van de CDS anderhalf bataljon, brigadestaf en ondersteuning gealarmeerd. We stonden niet op stand-by, velen op verlof. Binnen 12 uur 80% van het personeel binnen, vanuit heel de wereld onderweg voor die ene opdracht in de Oekraine. Geen vragen over de opdracht en vergoedingen voor niet genoten verlof en transportkosten. Maximaal voorbereiden, spullen, wapens pakken, voertuigen gereed stellen en de staf plannen op de inzet. Korte nachten, maar veel inzet, loyaliteit en flexibiliteit. ik ben trots op mijn mensen, die zonder kikken hun gezin achterlaten op de camping en staan voor hun taak. 11 Luchtmobiele Brigade, de mannen, vrouwen en de burgers: daar kan ik op bouwen! ELK MOMENT, ELKE MISSIE
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EasyJet plane carrying 156 passengers forced to make emergency landing after jet was struck by lightning
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...e-emergency-landing-jet-struck-LIGHTNING.html
Drie dodelijk crashes en één noodlanding in een grote week.
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Lightning in hoofdletters schrijven voor de sensantie. 
Kisten worden zo vaak geraakt door bliksem, kunnen ze gewoon hebben. Mensen denken al dat ze gaan crashen bij een beetje turbulentie.
Het lijkt me eerder dat ze vanwege het noodweer en de bliksem boven Barcelona airport gewoon een voorzorgslanding hebben gemaakt door uit te wijken naar een dichtbijgelegen luchthaven met betere weersomstandigheden. Bij een noodlanding worden hulpdiensten ingezet.
Woorden als emergency landing, LIGHTNING en terrified crying passengers trekken natuurlijk meer lezers, vooral deze week.
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Kisten worden zo vaak geraakt door bliksem, kunnen ze gewoon hebben. Mensen denken al dat ze gaan crashen bij een beetje turbulentie.
Het lijkt me eerder dat ze vanwege het noodweer en de bliksem boven Barcelona airport gewoon een voorzorgslanding hebben gemaakt door uit te wijken naar een dichtbijgelegen luchthaven met betere weersomstandigheden. Bij een noodlanding worden hulpdiensten ingezet.
Woorden als emergency landing, LIGHTNING en terrified crying passengers trekken natuurlijk meer lezers, vooral deze week.
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Storm in een glas water dus.
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Bredere EU-sancties tegen Rusland
In Brussel hebben de lidstaten van de Europese Unie weer meer sancties afgekondigd tegen Rusland. Het land wordt gestraft vanwege zijn aanhoudende inmenging in het conflict in Oost-Oekraïne.
De sancties waren dinsdag al door de ministers van Buitenlandse Zaken aangekondigd en zijn vandaag door de Europese Raad bekrachtigd.
De lidstaten hebben vijftien personen en achttien instellingen op de zwarte lijst gezet. Hun tegoeden worden bevroren en de personen krijgen een reisverbod. Namen worden later vandaag bekendgemaakt.
Er staan nu 87 mensen op de Europese sanctielijst en twintig bedrijven.
De sancties waren dinsdag al door de ministers van Buitenlandse Zaken aangekondigd en zijn vandaag door de Europese Raad bekrachtigd.
De lidstaten hebben vijftien personen en achttien instellingen op de zwarte lijst gezet. Hun tegoeden worden bevroren en de personen krijgen een reisverbod. Namen worden later vandaag bekendgemaakt.
Er staan nu 87 mensen op de Europese sanctielijst en twintig bedrijven.
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Als Brussel ook maar een beetje geloofwaardigheid wilt behouden, dan zouden ze Guy Verhofstadt en Hans van Baalen ook op die zwarte lijst moeten zetten voor hun aanhoudende inmenging en bijdrage aan de oorzaak van dit conflict.
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The Catastrophe of #MH17: BBC in the Search of the “#BUK” – The Video Report Censored by BBC
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Note: Videos & a PDF of the Google Web-cache Have Been Preserved and Are Available Upon Request
Preamble: Why did the BBC delete this report by Olga Ivshina? Is it because the BBC team was unable to find any evidence that a rocket was launched in the area that the Ukrainian Security Service (“SBU”) alleges to be the place from which the Novorossiya Militia launched a “BUK” missile?
Or is it because every eyewitness interviewed by the BBC team specifically indicated the presence of Ukrainian military aircraft right beside the Malaysian Airlines Boeing MH17 at the time that it was shot down?
Or is it because of eyewitness accounts (like the one posted following the transcript of the BBC report) confirming that the Ukrainian air force regularly used civilian aircraft flying over Novorossiya as human shields to protect its military aircraft conducting strikes against civilian population from the Militia’s anti-aircraft units?
I reserve the final judgment to the readers of this blog. This entry is broken down into:
1. introductory paragraphs to the BBC video report;
2. English-language transcript of the BBC video report; and,
3. a video interview with Elena, a Militia fighter, recorded in Slavyansk on or about June 18, 2014, or one month prior to the MH17 catastrophe, wherein she states that, even then, the Ukrainian military aircraft would customarily hide behind civilian aircraft to bomb civilian targets on the ground.
In the last part of this entry Elena predicts that the Ukrainian military will stage the horrible catastrophe like the MH17 crash - she makes this prediction one whole month prior to the disaster.
Video: The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8sjMWhl-4
Original BBC Video Report: Preserved by Google Web-cache
Introductory Paragraphs to the BBC Video Report
The “black boxes” of the crashed Malaysian Boeing have finally been transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from Russia.
The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile.
BBC reporter Olga Ivshina and producer Oksana Vozhdayeva decided to find the place from which the missile was allegedly launched.
Transcript of the BBC Video Report
DPR Representative: Here it is.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The black boxes from the crashed Boeing are finally being transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
Eyewitness #1: There were two explosions in the air. And this is how it broke apart. And [the fragments] blew apart like this, to the sides. And when …
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.
Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.
Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from the direction of Russia.
Vitaliy Naida, Department of Counterintelligence of SBU [Ukrainian Security Service]: This was a BUK M1 system from which the aircraft was shot down. It came to Ukraine early in the morning on the 17th of July. It was delivered by a tow truck to the city of Donetsk. After that, it was redeployed from Donetsk, as part of a column of military equipment, to the area of the city of Torez, to the area of Snezhnoye, to the area of Pervomaisk.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile. We attempted to verify these photographs and information at the location.
One of the photographs showed a landscape not far from the city of Torez, on which smoke could be seen coming from the presumed location of the missile’s launch. We attempted to find this location, and it appears that we were successful.
We are now on the outskirts of the city of Torez. Behind me, approximately five kilometres away, is the city of Snezhnoye. And the landscape here matches the landscape that we can see on the photograph published by the Ukrainian Security Service.
To find the place from which the smoke was allegedly coming from, we adopted as markers these three poplars and the group of trees. Presumably, this is the place that can be seen on the photograph published by the SBU. And here are our markers: the three solitary poplars and the small group of trees in the distance.
The smoke that can be seen on the photograph came from somewhere over there [pointing behind her], behind my back. The SBU believes that this is a trace coming from the launch of a “BUK” missile.
However, it must be noted that there are here, approximately in the same place, the Saur-Mogila memorial, near which the fighting continues almost unabated, and a coalmine. It turns out that the smoke with the same degree of probability could have been coming from any of these locations.
Having circled around the nearby fields, we were unable to find any traces of a missile launch. Nor did the local inhabitants that we encountered see any “BUK” either.
At the ruins of an apartment building in the city of Snezhnoye, the topic of the jet fighters that may have been escorting civilian aircraft comes up again. A bomb dropped from above took away the lives of eleven civilians here.
Sergey Godovanets, Commander of the Militia of the city of Snezhnoye: They use these civilian aircraft to hide behind them. It is only now that they stopped flying over us – but, usually, civilian aircraft would always fly above us. And they hide [behind them]. [The experience in] Slavyansk had demonstrated that they would fly out from behind a civilian aircraft, bomb away, and then hide, once again, behind the civilian aircraft and fly away.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The commander of the local militia emphasizes that they have no weaponry capable of shooting down a jet fighter [flying] at a significant height. However, he says that if such weaponry were to appear, they would have tried to.
Sergey Godovanets: If we know that it is not a civilian aircraft, but a military one, then – yes.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: So, could the Boeing have been shot down by the militias that had mistaken it for a military aircraft? There is as yet no unequivocal confirmation of either this or any other version [of what took place]. The international experts are just beginning their work with the information obtained from the crashed airliner. It now appears that it is difficult to overstate the importance of this investigation. Olga Ivshina, BBC.
Militia Elena: Ukrainian Military Planes Hide Behind Civilian Airliners
Video: Recorded at least one month prior to MH17 Crash, published with ENG subs on June 18, 2014
Note: Pay close attention starting at 01:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKoKmUtQXE
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Note: Videos & a PDF of the Google Web-cache Have Been Preserved and Are Available Upon Request
Preamble: Why did the BBC delete this report by Olga Ivshina? Is it because the BBC team was unable to find any evidence that a rocket was launched in the area that the Ukrainian Security Service (“SBU”) alleges to be the place from which the Novorossiya Militia launched a “BUK” missile?
Or is it because every eyewitness interviewed by the BBC team specifically indicated the presence of Ukrainian military aircraft right beside the Malaysian Airlines Boeing MH17 at the time that it was shot down?
Or is it because of eyewitness accounts (like the one posted following the transcript of the BBC report) confirming that the Ukrainian air force regularly used civilian aircraft flying over Novorossiya as human shields to protect its military aircraft conducting strikes against civilian population from the Militia’s anti-aircraft units?
I reserve the final judgment to the readers of this blog. This entry is broken down into:
1. introductory paragraphs to the BBC video report;
2. English-language transcript of the BBC video report; and,
3. a video interview with Elena, a Militia fighter, recorded in Slavyansk on or about June 18, 2014, or one month prior to the MH17 catastrophe, wherein she states that, even then, the Ukrainian military aircraft would customarily hide behind civilian aircraft to bomb civilian targets on the ground.
In the last part of this entry Elena predicts that the Ukrainian military will stage the horrible catastrophe like the MH17 crash - she makes this prediction one whole month prior to the disaster.
Video: The Catastrophe of #MH17: #BBC in the Search of the “#BUK”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8sjMWhl-4
Original BBC Video Report: Preserved by Google Web-cache
Introductory Paragraphs to the BBC Video Report
The “black boxes” of the crashed Malaysian Boeing have finally been transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from Russia.
The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile.
BBC reporter Olga Ivshina and producer Oksana Vozhdayeva decided to find the place from which the missile was allegedly launched.
Transcript of the BBC Video Report
DPR Representative: Here it is.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The black boxes from the crashed Boeing are finally being transferred into the hands of the experts. However, how much can they tell us?
The recorders logged the coordinates and the heading of the aircraft at the time of the incident and may have recorded the sound of the explosion. However, they will not tell us what exactly caused the explosion.
The inhabitants of the nearby villages are certain that they saw military aircraft in the sky shortly prior to the catastrophe. According to them, it actually was the jet fighters that brought down the Boeing.
Eyewitness #1: There were two explosions in the air. And this is how it broke apart. And [the fragments] blew apart like this, to the sides. And when …
Eyewitness #2: … And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it. Everybody saw it.
Eyewitness #1: Yes, yes. It was flying under it, because it could be seen. It was proceeding underneath, below the civilian one.
Eyewitness #3: There were sounds of an explosion. But they were in the sky. They came from the sky. Then this plane made a sharp turn-around like this. It changed its trajectory and headed in that direction [indicating the direction with her hands].
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian government rejects this version of events. They believe that the Boeing was shot down using a missile from a “BUK” complex that came in from the direction of Russia.
Vitaliy Naida, Department of Counterintelligence of SBU [Ukrainian Security Service]: This was a BUK M1 system from which the aircraft was shot down. It came to Ukraine early in the morning on the 17th of July. It was delivered by a tow truck to the city of Donetsk. After that, it was redeployed from Donetsk, as part of a column of military equipment, to the area of the city of Torez, to the area of Snezhnoye, to the area of Pervomaisk.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The Ukrainian Security Service has published photographs and a video, which, in its opinion, prove that the Boeing was shot down with a “BUK” missile. We attempted to verify these photographs and information at the location.
One of the photographs showed a landscape not far from the city of Torez, on which smoke could be seen coming from the presumed location of the missile’s launch. We attempted to find this location, and it appears that we were successful.
We are now on the outskirts of the city of Torez. Behind me, approximately five kilometres away, is the city of Snezhnoye. And the landscape here matches the landscape that we can see on the photograph published by the Ukrainian Security Service.
To find the place from which the smoke was allegedly coming from, we adopted as markers these three poplars and the group of trees. Presumably, this is the place that can be seen on the photograph published by the SBU. And here are our markers: the three solitary poplars and the small group of trees in the distance.
The smoke that can be seen on the photograph came from somewhere over there [pointing behind her], behind my back. The SBU believes that this is a trace coming from the launch of a “BUK” missile.
However, it must be noted that there are here, approximately in the same place, the Saur-Mogila memorial, near which the fighting continues almost unabated, and a coalmine. It turns out that the smoke with the same degree of probability could have been coming from any of these locations.
Having circled around the nearby fields, we were unable to find any traces of a missile launch. Nor did the local inhabitants that we encountered see any “BUK” either.
At the ruins of an apartment building in the city of Snezhnoye, the topic of the jet fighters that may have been escorting civilian aircraft comes up again. A bomb dropped from above took away the lives of eleven civilians here.
Sergey Godovanets, Commander of the Militia of the city of Snezhnoye: They use these civilian aircraft to hide behind them. It is only now that they stopped flying over us – but, usually, civilian aircraft would always fly above us. And they hide [behind them]. [The experience in] Slavyansk had demonstrated that they would fly out from behind a civilian aircraft, bomb away, and then hide, once again, behind the civilian aircraft and fly away.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: The commander of the local militia emphasizes that they have no weaponry capable of shooting down a jet fighter [flying] at a significant height. However, he says that if such weaponry were to appear, they would have tried to.
Sergey Godovanets: If we know that it is not a civilian aircraft, but a military one, then – yes.
Olga Ivshina, BBC: So, could the Boeing have been shot down by the militias that had mistaken it for a military aircraft? There is as yet no unequivocal confirmation of either this or any other version [of what took place]. The international experts are just beginning their work with the information obtained from the crashed airliner. It now appears that it is difficult to overstate the importance of this investigation. Olga Ivshina, BBC.
Militia Elena: Ukrainian Military Planes Hide Behind Civilian Airliners
Video: Recorded at least one month prior to MH17 Crash, published with ENG subs on June 18, 2014
Note: Pay close attention starting at 01:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKoKmUtQXE
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Vliegtuig neergeschoten, niemand weet wie het gedaan heeft, Facebook in rep en roer.
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Klopt, doe het nu meer voor mezelf zodat ik een ''archief'' heb.
En ja het is wel duidelijk voor de grote massa dat het de Russen waren.(zonder enig bewijs)
Niks geleerd van de geschiedenis zeker?
''Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.''
''Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.''
''Great liars are also great magicians.''
''What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.''
''I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.''
''If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.''
''It is not truth that matters, but victory.''
''The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.''
''The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.''
''Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.''
''Great liars are also great magicians.''
''What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.''
''I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.''
''If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.''
''It is not truth that matters, but victory.''
''The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.''
''The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.''
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Misschien moet je mein kampf eens lezen, dan weet je hoe propaganda in zijn werk gaat.