Het is erg moeilijk om een micellaire caseïne te vinden, en al helemaal een met een hoog eiwitgehalte. Ik heb me door een 'specialist' laten vertellen dat er geen
micellaire caseïnes bestaan die 90% eiwit bevatten, dit zou dan gewoon calcium caseïnaat moeten zijn. Of het echt zo is, ik weet het niet,
we blijven ons oriënteren op nieuwe fabrikanten met hopelijk hogere eiwitpercentages.
Overigens werken wij niet met Acesulfame-K, alléén sucralose.
Jaap
edit: omgerekend per gram eiwit is het bij ons toch nog iets voordeliger ;-)
Hoeveel waarheid zit hierin?
ga ik effe onderzoeke
casein fraction from milk is more than 90% protein
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By diafiltering the retentate,
casein is purified up to 90% protein on a total ..... However, casein is less than 6% and whey protein is more than 12% in the permeate ....
Maubois, J-L. and Ollivier, S. (1992)
casein Facts, information, pictures
Often used as a protein supplement, since the casein fraction from milk is more than 90% protein
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Micellar casein is the superior form, calcium caseinate is inferior.
*Caseinate (as either calcium caseinate, sodium caseinate or potassium caseinate)
Caseinate contains greater than 90% protein and is the most soluble form of casein--allowing it to mix easily in fluid, making it a top choice by manufacturers of protein powders. It is formed by the reaction of casein with an alkaline substance such as calcium, sodium or potassium. This raises the mineral content of the product. If you're trying to avoid sodium (such as during a shredding phase), read labels carefully and consider avoiding products with high amounts of sodium caseinate. Alternatively, if you want to boost your calcium intake, products that are high in calcium caseinate will give you extra.
* Micellar casein (MC)
MC is made by separating the casein portion of milk from the lactose, fat and whey by microfiltration. This form of casein is not denatured (meaning the protein isn't altered), unlike the other forms, which are often treated with heat or acid. As the name implies, MC can still form micelles upon rehydration with fluid, which makes it much slower digesting than the other casein proteins. The protein drink you take before bed should contain a good deal of MC, to prevent your body from going catabolic during your nighttime fast.
Caseinates, the good, the bad, and the ugly
Tuesday, 04 November 2003 14:00
The Proteinfactory has always been the #1 source for protein knowledge and revelations. Thus, we hope when we give you this knowledge and information you can convert that wealth of information into your supplement regime which will yield new muscle growth. The better understanding of the protein sources you use, equates to a better understanding of how to use those protein sources for greater muscle gains. For example, the basic use of a whey isolate over a whey concentrate will theoretically yield better results because it has a higher biological value, higher protein subfraction contents (Grow factors especially) and over all a higher amino acid profile on gram for gram basis. Thus this leads me to the topic of this article "the difference of the Caseinates. Caseinates can be manufactured into several varieties. Such as calcium caseinate, potassium caseinate, sodium caseinate, fresh curd caseinate, and micellar casein. In this article I will discuss calcium caseinate, fresh curd caseinate and micellar casein. Is it important you know the differences between them? Yes. Each product is different and can effect how much progress you make with your protein supplement.
Casein starts from skim milk solids. Out of these skim milk solids come the proteins whey and casein. Skim milk solids are 80% casein, 20% whey, lactose, and minerals. Manufacturers then add hydrochloric acid to the skim milk to reach the desired ph levels which will separate the specified proteins. (whey and casein). Then the manufacturers begin the processes which turn the casein into their specified products.
The first type of casein to discuss is calcium caseinate. Out of the three types discussed in this article it is the lowest quality version. Calcium caseinate is the most common and most well know source of casein. Calcium caseinate is made by first washing and drying the casein which makes it an acid casein. This process begins to denature the protein. The acid casein is then put into bags and shipped to the United States for further processing. The US manufacturers then continue the process to make calcium caseinate by washing it and drying it again then applying the necessary salts which further denatures the protein and hence left with their final products.
If you have ever tasted calcium caseinate you would know that it taste pretty bad. It has a chalky mildewy taste. That is because of the calcium caseinate has been washed and dried twice and possesses that acidic application. Doesn't sound too good does it. Noted that I will soon post a comparison chart of denaturization of the three types.
Next is Fresh Curd caseinate. Fresh curd is not a new type of casein. Fresh curd has been around for a while but has never been used in the supplement industry. Why? Because it is a tad more expensive than calcium caseinate. Besides that the cosmetic term "Fresh Curd" does not appear to have a pretty bodybuilding sound to it. Having to do with Proteinfactory.com this will be the "new" version of caseinate. Hopefully it will be one to replace calcium caseinate for those seeking a less undenatured version of caseinate. Fresh Curd caseinate goes through the processing as calcium caseinate, thus making it as undenatured. Instead of the caseinate being washed and dried twice it is only washes and dried once. The caseinate is never brought to an acid state. Instead the casein is converted into a wet "curd", has an akali added to it, then dried and the final product is then fresh curd caseinate. The product is very white looking instead of a cream look that calcium caseinate has. Fresh curd also tastes much better than calcium caseinate.
Third and final version is micellar casein. Micellar casein is the highest quality version. With micellar casein washing and drying techniques are not used. Filtration methods similar to whey are used. Thus leaving the casein undenatured. Micellar casein is called "micellar" because the collolidal suspensions in milk are tiny 'Bubbles" This bubble is called "micelle".
Micellar casein is a super high quality protein. Bodybuilders will benefit the most from this version of casein because of the level of undenatured product versus the previous mentioned caseinates, and secondly the level of biological value. (note that a BV comparison chart will soon be posted of the 3 types of casein's. To be sure you are getting Micellar Casein as the protein manufacturer to tell you what country it comes from. If they cant give you an answer and supply you with the Certificate of Analysis then it is just regular calcium caseinate. [bron: [Link niet meer beschikbaar]
wanneer krijg ik mijn 'tegemoedkoming'?
gast ik heb je laatste 20 posts gelezen en in al die posts loop je te b**chen tov B&Fshop
doe eens niet zo kinderachtig!
Heb bij de bestelling, Whey perfection, EAA, WMS.
Daarnaast Alpha voor slapen gaan en bij opstaan.
Preworkout, Black Powder bij bestelling en RPM die bij de alpha zit, deze 2 ga ik afwisselen.
Voedingschema heb ik al in elkaar gezet met behulp van de stickies bij de voeding sectie. Ene dag makkelijker te volgen dan andere dag maar moet ergens beginnen. Maar mocht ik nog keer ergens hulp bij nodig hebben, hoor je het vanzelf
jep die stickies zijn echt goed
die Alpha had ik niet aangeraden aangezien het een soort van test-booster is veronderstel ik en je 22, zoals mij
, bent veronderstel ik dat je test al redelijk hoog staat
maar kan ook wel zijn dat je er goede gains op haalt hoor, laat het effe weten, ik ben er nieuwsgierig achter
whey perfection, EAA, WMS zit je perfect
topproducten
Hopelijk word t flink knallen morgen!! word denk een NOX pump met schouders en tricep training...
jep en die jack3d is ook echt een zotte
hoe ga je het nemen? ene dag nox pump andere dag jack3d? dan krijg je trouwens ook minder snel gewenning
Ziet er netjes uit !
Graag gedaan.
en de rest staat er niet op wanneer ik die moet nemen. Speelt dit een rol?
misschien dat dat de reden is van dat gevoel. kzal het straks weten te zeggen hoor.
