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Welke supplementen gebruiken tijdens een kuurtje
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Daan-B
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Originally posted by daanbreejen
ik heb niet erg veel verstand van kuren maar geloof dat je beter geen extra vitaminen kan slikken ivm dat je lever dacht ik, mischien kan iemand dit aanvullen
Ja dat wil ik eigenlijk ook wel weten, ik heb ook wel eens gehoord, dat sommige vroeger geen leverbeschermer gebruiken, maar veel hogeren adh in vitamines helpt je lever.
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Alle vitamines belasten je lever, tijdens de kuur gewoon niet doen.
Creatine begin je samen met 3 gram vitamine C/dag direct NA je kuur.
Beiden werken niet hormonaal (het is te zeggen: vitamine c verlaagd cortisol en creatine maakt je sterker en houd je gewicht beter vast)
Ook enkel na de kuur lever herstellers nemen (nee beschermen doen ze niet, wel herstellen) dus dan mariadistel tabs.
Tijdens de kuur kan je dan gebruiken
weightgainer, lijnzaadolie/visolie (3 lepels/dag), whey eiwit
Meer heb je imo niet nodig, maak het niet te duur, kuren is al duur genoeg.
Creatine begin je samen met 3 gram vitamine C/dag direct NA je kuur.
Beiden werken niet hormonaal (het is te zeggen: vitamine c verlaagd cortisol en creatine maakt je sterker en houd je gewicht beter vast)
Ook enkel na de kuur lever herstellers nemen (nee beschermen doen ze niet, wel herstellen) dus dan mariadistel tabs.
Tijdens de kuur kan je dan gebruiken
weightgainer, lijnzaadolie/visolie (3 lepels/dag), whey eiwit
Meer heb je imo niet nodig, maak het niet te duur, kuren is al duur genoeg.
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Ohhhhh, hoeveel adh is die b12
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En welke organen moeten giftige stoffen en overschotten afbreken tot afvalstoffen om ze o.a. af te voeren via urine? Juist ja.. lever en nieren.Originally posted by KaLe
vitamine c boeit toch geen kont
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Maar wat ga je na de kuur doen? In een dip vallen?Originally posted by enrico
tijdens de kuur kan je ook creatine nemen, dan is de opname tientallen keren beter
en ga je dus ook meer winnen
Dan is het juist ideaal om deze dip op te vangen met een niet hormonaal supplement. Als je dit tijdens de kuur al gebruikt dan veranderd er niets en verlies je meer. Aan de opname van steroiden doet creatine niets.
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NP, heb dit in praktijk bij velen goed zien werken...Originally posted by ccnp
He admin Thanks voor het advies
De opname van de steroïden is niet beter, maar de opname van de creatine wel
maar dat van die dip is wel waar...
1000mcg per 1ml ampul,
voordeel van spuiten is dat alles opgenomen word en amerikaanse bodybuilders zijn gek op b12 spuiten, ik zal eens wat artikelen van ze pikken.
ben zo trug met de artikelen.
Injectable B-12 FAQ
Injectable Vitamin B-12 FAQ
Q. Does supplementing with non-injectable B-12 give you the same effects?
A. To simply answer this question, the answer is no. Your GI tract will destroy more than 90% of vitamin b-12 when you take it orally. When you inject gets absorbed differently.
Q. Is injectable B-12 legal?
A. You may buy it over the net legally, but it is difficult to walk into a pharmacy and pick it up. Here, in North America it is legal. It is also easy to get in Canada
Q. What benefits do I have when taking B-12?
A. Vitamin B-12 is known to increase RBC (red blood cells.) It is also known to dramatically increase appetite and energy. Some people may not notice the appetite affects as well as others.
Q. Who should use B-12?
A. Anyone can use B-12. But with Injectables I would advise someone be 18 years of age or older. But of course, 21 years of age or older when using other substances such as steroids
Q. Where is B-12 found?
A. B-12 is found in virtually everything you consume on a daily basis. The B-12 in the food you consume is not equivalent to the B-12 you would inject, the food you consume is smaller than the injects.
Q. How many Cubic Centimeters (CC’s) should I take weekly?
A. Any amount you desire. No more than 7cc’s (7,000mgs) a week. Some people take ½ cc or 1cc a week some take 5-7. Try to do two weeks on, than two weeks off, and so on.
Q. Can you overdose on B-12 if it’s water-soluble?
A. I’m sure you could but you would have to try …..hard…..10cc + daily
Q. how quickly will one notice the energy and appetite?
A. The energy may show up three days to a week. The appetite will show up about the second week, but of course, this depends on the person.
Q.For someone just using injectable b-12, can any sort of increased muscle mass/strength be expected?
A. I have been using it for a while now. I have noticed a little bit of mass, but it is probably from the increase in appetite. Strength is not any higher, nor is it lower. There are no studies stating increased strength/mass. But b12 is needed for cell division and tissue growth
Q. Does it hurt?
A. No, not compared to anything else you can inject. Of course it all depends on your pain threshold too. B12 it often used to cut painful injectables ..(prop….)
Q.Can you stack? Is there a problem with taking it while on a cycle?
A. There is no problem "stacking" it . It may be mixed with water or oil based injectables.
Q. CanB12 can be injected with slin pins, correct?
A. Yes
Injectable Vitamin B-12 FAQ
Q. Does supplementing with non-injectable B-12 give you the same effects?
A. To simply answer this question, the answer is no. Your GI tract will destroy more than 90% of vitamin b-12 when you take it orally. When you inject gets absorbed differently.
Q. Is injectable B-12 legal?
A. You may buy it over the net legally, but it is difficult to walk into a pharmacy and pick it up. Here, in North America it is legal. It is also easy to get in Canada
Q. What benefits do I have when taking B-12?
A. Vitamin B-12 is known to increase RBC (red blood cells.) It is also known to dramatically increase appetite and energy. Some people may not notice the appetite affects as well as others.
Q. Who should use B-12?
A. Anyone can use B-12. But with Injectables I would advise someone be 18 years of age or older. But of course, 21 years of age or older when using other substances such as steroids
Q. Where is B-12 found?
A. B-12 is found in virtually everything you consume on a daily basis. The B-12 in the food you consume is not equivalent to the B-12 you would inject, the food you consume is smaller than the injects.
Q. How many Cubic Centimeters (CC’s) should I take weekly?
A. Any amount you desire. No more than 7cc’s (7,000mgs) a week. Some people take ½ cc or 1cc a week some take 5-7. Try to do two weeks on, than two weeks off, and so on.
Q. Can you overdose on B-12 if it’s water-soluble?
A. I’m sure you could but you would have to try …..hard…..10cc + daily
Q. how quickly will one notice the energy and appetite?
A. The energy may show up three days to a week. The appetite will show up about the second week, but of course, this depends on the person.
Q.For someone just using injectable b-12, can any sort of increased muscle mass/strength be expected?
A. I have been using it for a while now. I have noticed a little bit of mass, but it is probably from the increase in appetite. Strength is not any higher, nor is it lower. There are no studies stating increased strength/mass. But b12 is needed for cell division and tissue growth
Q. Does it hurt?
A. No, not compared to anything else you can inject. Of course it all depends on your pain threshold too. B12 it often used to cut painful injectables ..(prop….)
Q.Can you stack? Is there a problem with taking it while on a cycle?
A. There is no problem "stacking" it . It may be mixed with water or oil based injectables.
Q. CanB12 can be injected with slin pins, correct?
A. Yes
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Bedankt voor je info, ik ga het een keer proberen, ik kan ze gelukkig krijgen.
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Periactin is ook iets dat je kan gebruiken tijdens het kuren, werkt nog veel beter als eetlust opwekker. Wel illegaal, maar dat zijn steroiden ook.
Raad je wel aan om voor de training dan eca of caffeïne houdende drank te drinken, om het "groggy" effect te verminderen. Probleem zal alleen zijn om eraan te geraken, want veel aanbod is er nog niet bij de dealers.
Raad je wel aan om voor de training dan eca of caffeïne houdende drank te drinken, om het "groggy" effect te verminderen. Probleem zal alleen zijn om eraan te geraken, want veel aanbod is er nog niet bij de dealers.
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Vraag het eens aan de leveranciers die je kent, die kunnen er vast en zeker aan komen.
in het verleden was het goedkoop te krijgen door IP, maar de grote reseller van IP in NL was opeens spoorloos verdwenen
dat was wel jammer, want ze hadden ook onwijs veel goede producten.nog een stukje over injectable B12
What does Vitamin B12 do?
as posted by Kasumi
Vitamin B12 is needed for normal nerve cell activity, DNA replication, and production of the mood-affecting substance called SAMe (S-adenosyl-L-methionine). Vitamin B12 works with folic acid to control homocysteine levels. An excess of homocysteine, which is an amino acid (protein building block), may increase the risk of heart disease, stroke, and perhaps osteoporosis and Alzheimer’s disease.
Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause fatigue, and some research indicates that individuals who are not deficient in this vitamin have increased energy after injections of vitamin B12. In one unblinded trial, 2,500–5,000 mcg of vitamin B12, given by injection every two to three days, led to improvement in 50–80% of a group of people with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), with most improvement appearing after several weeks of B12 shots. While the research in this area remains preliminary, people with CFS interested in considering a trial of vitamin B12 injections should consult a nutritionally oriented doctor. Oral or sublingual B12 supplements are unlikely to obtain the same results as injectable B12, because the body’s ability to absorb large amounts is relatively poor.
Where is Vitamin B12 found?
Vitamin B12 is found in all foods of animal origin, including dairy, eggs, meat, fish, and poultry. Inconsistent but small amounts occur in seaweed (including spirulina) and tempeh.
Who is likely to be Vitamin B12 deficient?
Vegans (vegetarians who also avoid dairy and eggs) frequently become deficient, though the process may take many years. People with malabsorption conditions may suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency. Individuals suffering from pernicious anemia require high-dose supplements of vitamin B12. Older people with urinary incontinence3 and hearing loss have been reported to be at increased risk of B12 deficiency.
How much Vitamin B12 is usually taken?
Most people do not require vitamin B12 supplements. However, vegans should take at least 2–3 mcg per day. Treatment for pernicious anemia includes supplements of 1,000 mcg of vitamin B12 per day or vitamin B12 injections. Despite the beliefs of many medical doctors, scientific proof indicates that oral supplementation (1,000 mg per day) provides successful therapy and that vitamin B12 injections are not needed. In addition, the elderly may benefit from 10–25 mcg per day of vitamin B12.
What does Vitamin B12 do?
as posted by Kasumi
Vitamin B12 is needed for normal nerve cell activity, DNA replication, and production of the mood-affecting substance called SAMe (S-adenosyl-L-methionine). Vitamin B12 works with folic acid to control homocysteine levels. An excess of homocysteine, which is an amino acid (protein building block), may increase the risk of heart disease, stroke, and perhaps osteoporosis and Alzheimer’s disease.
Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause fatigue, and some research indicates that individuals who are not deficient in this vitamin have increased energy after injections of vitamin B12. In one unblinded trial, 2,500–5,000 mcg of vitamin B12, given by injection every two to three days, led to improvement in 50–80% of a group of people with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), with most improvement appearing after several weeks of B12 shots. While the research in this area remains preliminary, people with CFS interested in considering a trial of vitamin B12 injections should consult a nutritionally oriented doctor. Oral or sublingual B12 supplements are unlikely to obtain the same results as injectable B12, because the body’s ability to absorb large amounts is relatively poor.
Where is Vitamin B12 found?
Vitamin B12 is found in all foods of animal origin, including dairy, eggs, meat, fish, and poultry. Inconsistent but small amounts occur in seaweed (including spirulina) and tempeh.
Who is likely to be Vitamin B12 deficient?
Vegans (vegetarians who also avoid dairy and eggs) frequently become deficient, though the process may take many years. People with malabsorption conditions may suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency. Individuals suffering from pernicious anemia require high-dose supplements of vitamin B12. Older people with urinary incontinence3 and hearing loss have been reported to be at increased risk of B12 deficiency.
How much Vitamin B12 is usually taken?
Most people do not require vitamin B12 supplements. However, vegans should take at least 2–3 mcg per day. Treatment for pernicious anemia includes supplements of 1,000 mcg of vitamin B12 per day or vitamin B12 injections. Despite the beliefs of many medical doctors, scientific proof indicates that oral supplementation (1,000 mg per day) provides successful therapy and that vitamin B12 injections are not needed. In addition, the elderly may benefit from 10–25 mcg per day of vitamin B12.
