Hallo
Ik ben de trainingspartner van de starter van de thread.
Zelf hebben we beiden al veel research gedaan en al aan verschillende prof's en dokters uitleg gevraagd omtrent anabolen. Zelf zit ik ook in het medisch millieu en krijg ik overal het antwoord afblijven omdat de nevenwerkingen toch reeël zijn. Nu we zijn erg vastbesloten toch anabolen te gebruiken maar dan wel erg veilig. We zoeken daarom een zeer lichte kuur en zo min mogelijk bijwerkingen. Iedereen van uit medische kant zegt: bijwerkingen. Iedereen uit het fitnessmilieu zegt: geen bijwerkingen. Dus nu weten we niet goed wat we moeten geloven. Dat is onze belangrijkste vraag want uiteraard zijn we bekommerd over onze toekomst
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Daarom dus onze vraag:
Kan iemand ons een zeer licht kuurtje zeggen dat de neveneffecten minimaliseerd. De gain is niet superbelangrijk zolang er maar verhoging is.
Dat zijn dan profs die hun stof niet kennen,want onderzoek heeft de laatste jaren niets schrikbarends opgeleverd bij zulke kuurtjes.
Test only 10 weken aan 500 mg/week zou ik voor gaan....;
600mg/wk testosteron
The first is a testosteron dose-response study published in the American Journal of Physiology Endocrinology and Metabolism in July of 2001, Which looked at the effects of various doses of testosteron enanthate on body composition, muscle size, strength, power, coïtusual and cognitive functions, and various markers of health43. 61 normal men, ages 18-35, participated in this investigation. They were divided into five groups, with each receiving weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300 or 600 milligrams for a period of 20 weeks. This treatment period was preceded by a control (no drug) period of 4 weeks, and followed by a recovery period of 16 weeks. Markers of strength and lean body mass gains were the greatest with larger doses of testosteron, with the 600mg group significant changes in prostate-specific antigen (PSA), liver enzymes (liver stress), coïtusual activity, or cognitive functioning at any dose. The only negative trait noted was a slight HDL (good) cholesterol reduction in all groups except those taking 25mg. The worst reduction of 9 points was noted in the 600mg group, which still averaged 34 points after 20 weeks of treatment. All groups except this one remained in the normal reference range for males (40-59 points).
600mg/wk Nandrolone
Next we look at a study conducted with HIV+ men, which charted the lean-mass-building effects of nandrolone decanoate44. 30 people participated in this investigation, with each given the same (high) weekly dose of this drug. Half underwent resistance training so that two groups (trained and untrained) were formed. The dosing schedule was quite formidable, beginning with 200mg on the first week, 400mg on the second, and 600mg for the remaining 10 weeks of peak therapy. Doses were slowly reduced from weeks 13 to 16 to withdraw patients slowly from the drug. Potential negative metabolic changes were looked at closely including cholesterol and lipid levels (including subtractions of HDL and LDL), triglycerides, insulin sensitivity and fasting glucose levels. Even with the high dosages used here, no negative changes were noted in total or LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, or insulin sensitivity. In fact, the group also undergoing resistance exercise noticed significant improvements in LSL particle size distribution, lipoprotein(a) levels, and triglyceride values, which would all indicate improved cardiovascular disease risk. Carbohydrate metabolism was also significantly improved in this group. The only negative impact noted during this study was a reduction in HDL (good) cholesterol values similar to that noted with the testosteron study, with an 8-10 point reduction noted between both groups.
100mg/day Anadrol
Lastly, we find a study looking at the potent oral steroid oxymetholone (Anadrol)45. This steroid is actually thought by bodybuilders to be one of the most dangerous ones around, who as a group seem to traet it with both a lot of respect and caution. It is not extremely common to find them exceeding the doses and intake durations of this investigation, making it a very good representation of real-world Anadrol usage. This study involves 31 elderly men, all between the ages of 65 and 80. The men were divided into three groups, with each taking 50mg, 100mg or placebo daily for a 12-week period. Changes in lean body mass and strength were measured, as well as common markers of safety including total, LDL and HDL cholesterol levels, serum triglycerides, PSA (prostate specific antigen) and liver enzymes. Muscle mass and strength gains were again relative to the dosage taken, with the end results being similar to those noted with 20 weeks of testosteron enanthate therapy at 125mg or 300mg per week (about 6,4 and 12 lb of lean body mass gained for the 50mg and 100mg doses respectively). There were no significant changes in PSA, total or LDL cholesterol values, or fasting triglycerides, however there was a significant reduction in HDL cholesterol values (reduced 19 and 23 points for the 50mg and 100mg groups respectively). Liver enzymes (transaminases AST and ALT) increased only in the 100mg group, but the changes were not dramatic, and were not accompanied by hepatic enlargement or the development of any serious liver condition.
Adding It All Up
One hundred and twenty men participated in these three studies, which involved use of high doses of steroids for periods of three to five months. It may be shocking to most of the staunch opponents of steroid use, but all of the men participating were still alive at the conclusion of their respective investigations. An unbiased assessment of the metabolic changes and health risks does not seem to reveal any short-term significant dangers. The main negative impact steroid use in all three cases was a reduction in good (HDL) cholesterol values, which is a legitimate concern when it comes to assessing one’s risk for developing cardiovascular disease. It is uncertain, however, if a short-lived increase in this particular risk factor will relate to any tangible damage to one’s health. It is also unknown how much, if any, this is offset by the other positive metabolic changes that were seen to accompany combined steroid use and exercise. Logic would seem to suggest that the very periodic use of steroids, under parameters similar to these studies, should entail relatively minimal risks to ones health overall. At the very least, it is extremely difficult to argue that an isolated cycle with moderate drug dose, such as those used here, is tantamount to playing Russian roulette with your body, as most media campaigns against the use of these drugs would seem to suggest.
Goeie kerel die dit zo mooi samenvat.
Is een beetje lang,maar een rationeel antwoord op je vraag.
I rest my case.
