HALLO,
Er zullen denk ik vast meerdere mensen zijn die zich het zelfde afvragen als ik. Welke PH kan je het beste pakken of combineren o.b. te cutten lean bulken of bulken.
Zou het een idee zijn om een overzicht te maken
Beginner Cut cycle
Beginner Bulk Cycle e
etc
Licht gevorderd
Gevorderd
Met welke combinaties etc, zodat veel mensen een keuze kunnen maken en niet 'onderwerpen' meerdere malen worden aangehaald?
Ik heb zelf nog geen ervaring met PH,
Ik ben zelf ook geen expert maar misschien dat je hier iets aam hebt
Mocht er info niet correct of up 2 date zijn is er vast wel iemand die dat ter sprake brengt.
BEGINNER BULKING (No Previous PH/DS Experience)
IForce Nutrition Bold 200
Methylated: No
Dosage: 800-1000mg.
Duration: 8-12 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 8-14lb (Largely dependent on cycle length)
OTC PCT: Yes
Overview: A very mild and effective compound known to increase appetite in many individuals making it a perfect option for a bulking cycle, especially for beginners. Bold is also a viable basis for a 'stack'.
Possible Side Effects: Mild. Side effects may include increased appetite and an increased possibility of acne. Gyno may also be a possibility with this compound as it does have some aromatization (although low). The use of an appropriate 'anti-oestrogen' product such as '6-Bromo' or 'Erase Pro' should be used on cycle.
Shredded Labs MethylC25 / Antaeus Labs Mechabol (Similar to P-Mag)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 75-100mg.
Duration: 4-6 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-12lb in 6 weeks.
OTC PCT: Yes. Although a SERM is preferable for longer/higher dosage cycles.
Overview: Antaeus Labs’ more potent take of the classic ‘P-Mag’. An active compound with no conversion required. Mechabol doesn't aromatize and is great for first cycles especially when looking to bulk.
Possible Side Effects: Low-Moderate. Back pumps, increased aggression and increased blood pressure are likely to some extent.
IronMagLabs Halo Extreme (Halodrol)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 75-100mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-14lb in 6 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/3-5lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A versatile compound which is often recommended for beginners. Dry gains which are easy to keep during/after PCT
Possible Side Effects: Mild. Increased Libido, back pumps, increased aggression.
BEGINNER LEAN MASS/RECOMP (No Previous PH/DS Experience)
FRL Alpha Mass / AMS 1-Andro (Converts to 1-Testosterone)
Methylated: No
Dosage: 90-120mg(Alpha Mass)/300-500mg(1-Andro)
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 6-10lbs with a 1-2% reduction of body fat are not uncommon.
OTC PCT: Yes
Overview: 2:1 Anabolic:Androgenic Ratio. Does not convert to oestrogen. Increases muscle hardness and vascularity. Often favoured for its ability to pormote moderate but consistent mass increases which are easy to maintain.
Possible Side Effects: Low. Side effects are likely to be mild but may include acne and increased aggression at a higher dosage given the nature of the compound.
IronMagLabs Halo Extreme (Halodrol)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 75-100mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-14lb in 6 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/3-5lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A versatile compound which is often recommended for beginners. Dry gains which are easy to keep during/after PCT
Possible Side Effects: Mild. Increased Libido, back pumps, increased aggression.
AMS Decavol RDe (Converts to Nadrolone)
Methylated: No
Dosage: 180-300mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 6-8lb in 6 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/3-5lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: Yes
Overview: Decavol commonly offers dry gains which are easy to keep during/after PCT. Many people report increased flexibility and reduced joint stiffness. Often Decavol is stacked but can be ran solo to increase hardness, strength, vascularity whilst adding lean tissue.
Possible Side Effects: Mild. Reduced libido, back pumps, increased aggression. Slight lethargy is also possible due to being a primarily anabolic compound.
INTERMEDIATE BULKING (Previously Completed 2-3 Successful Cycles)
Elite Formulations Epi Elite / RPN Havoc (Methepitiostane)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 30-50mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-15lb with a ‘Bulking Diet’/ 4-6lb and a reduction of 2-4% body fat with a ‘Cutting Diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A very versatile compound useful for both bulking or cutting. Displays some anti-oestrogen qualities. It appears that not everyone responds to Epi the same. Some users report little effect with others reporting quiet the opposite. Gains are very dry and easy to keep.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. Epi/Havoc offers a very favourable ratio of ‘gains vs. sides’. Although still limited the more common sides seems to be: reduced libido, lethargy and ‘dry joints’.
Anabolic Innovations Cynostane
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 30-40mg.
Duration: 4 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 7-10lb.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: Often regarded as a milder version of Superdol with fewer possible side effects. Dry gains which are relatively easy to keep during/after PCT. Noticeable strength increases. Seems to be hit or miss with some users reporting exceptional gains and other reporting less.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. Considering the potency of Cynostane the sides are relatively mild. However, blood pressure, lipid profiles and cholesterol may still be effected, especially at higher dosages.
IronMagLabs DECA-DROL(LMG)
Methylated: No
Dosage: 75-100mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 8-12lb in 6 weeks.
OTC PCT: Yes
Overview: Regarded as a ‘wet‘ compound making it a perfect choice for bulking. Excellent size and strength gains are commonly reported. Can be ran solo but more commonly as part of a stack.
Possible Side Effects: Low. The main concern with DECA-DROL is the possibility of progestin induced gyno, a SERM should be kept on hand.
INTERMEDIATE LEAN MASS/RECOMP (Previously Completed 2-3 Successful Cycles)
Antaeus Labs Trenazone
Methylated: No
Dosage: 75-150mg. Due to a long half life 1 dosage a day is preferable. Apply to: neck, upper back, outer thighs, chest, or abdomen for maximum absorption. Rotate sites to avoid skin irritation.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 7-9lb, with a reduction of body fat of around 1% are common in 6-8 weeks.
OTC PCT: Yes up to 75mg. Over 75mg a SERM is essential.
Overview: A very potent supplement with minimal liver strain. Many users report: Increased aggression, increased muscle hardness and size, increased vascularity and quicker recovery. Significant strength gains are also typical with Trenazone.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. As with oral Tren the most common side effects seem to be: loss of libido and increased blood pressure. Although uncommon gyno is possible due to an affinity for the progesterone receptor.
IForce Nutrition Protodrol
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 75-100mg.
Duration: 4-6 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-14lb with a ‘Bulking Diet’/ 4-6lb and a reduction of 2-3% body fat with a ‘Cutting Diet’.
OTC PCT: Yes, if ran at 75mg or less for a maximum of 4 weeks.
Overview: A very versatile compound which can be used for bulking or cutting. Most often favoured for cutting. Dry gains with noticeable strength increases. Often regarded as a stronger version of H-Drol with very few side effects.
Possible Side Effects: Mild. Strangely, sleeping patterns seem to be interrupted with Protodrol. For this reason users should avoid taking Protodrol close to bed time.
Elite Formulations Tren Elite
Methylated: No
Dosage: 30-50mg.
Duration: 6-8 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 10-14lb with a ‘Bulking Diet’/ 4-6lb and a reduction of 2-3% body fat with a ‘Cutting Diet’.
OTC PCT: No.
Overview: A very versatile compound which can be used for bulking or cutting. Most often favoured for cutting. One of the most tangible aspects of Tren is it's phenomenal strength gains. Tren Elite should not be confused with, other 'Tren' products which in actual fact are the weaker and inferior hormone 'dienolone'.
Possible Side Effects: Mild - Moderate. Increased aggression and blood pressure are common offenders for Tren products, as is reduced Libido. Although uncommon Gyno is possible due to an affinity for the progesterone receptor.
ADVANCED BULKING (Previously Completed At Least 3 Successful Cycles)
Antaeus Labs Ultradrol/Shredded Labs MSTEN-4
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 12-16mg.
Duration: 4-6 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 15-20lb in 4-6 weeks.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: Many users report: Increased aggression, increased muscle hardness and size. Significant strength gains are also often reported. No conversion to oestrogen or affinity for progesterone receptor.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. Loss of libido and lethargy are the most commonly reported sides. Given the potency of Ultradrol/MSTEN-4 it has relatively few sides.
Fusion Supplements Methadrol (Superdrol)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 20-30mg.
Duration: 3-4 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 14-20lb.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: Methadrol is one of the strongest compounds available. Gains are dramatic and quick with many users experiencing gains in strength and size as early as the first week.
Possible Side Effects: High. Methadrol commonly effects blood pressure, lipid profiles and cholesterol especially at higher dosages. Notorious for lethargy. As such cycles are kept at 3-4 weeks making sides relatively short in duration. The addition of Stano/5-Alpha Test significantly reduces sides for many users.
Fusion Supplements Xtreme Mass (Superdol & LMG)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 80-120mg (2-3 Caps)
Duration: 4 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 14-20lb.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: Superdrol & LMG offers users very dramatic results. Gains may be slightly wet in nature due to the addition of LMG. However this is beneficial to help reduce lethargy and increase overall mass accumulation.
Possible Side Effects: High. Superdrol commonly effects blood pressure, lipid profiles and cholesterol especially at higher dosages. LMG has a possibility of inducing gyno in sensitive individuals.
IronMagLabs Cyanostane Rx
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 20-40mg.
Duration: 4-6 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 14-18lb in 6 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/4-6lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A very potent compound utilizing ‘Cynostane’ and ‘Dymethazine’ in one capsule. Offers very rapid and dry gains in size and strength.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. Reduced Libido, back pumps, increased aggression and increased blood pressure are likely to some extent.
IronMagLabs Super-DMZ 2.0
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 20-40mg.
Duration: 4 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 16-20lb in 4 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/4-6lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A very potent compound utilizing ‘Ultradrol’ and ‘Dymethazine’ in one capsule. Rapid dry weight gains, with very noticeable strength gains. One of, if not the most potent DS available.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate-High. Reduced Libido, back pumps, increased aggression and increased blood pressure are likely to some extent.
Shredded Labs RIZEN (EPI & TREN Stack)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 80-100mg. (4-5 Caps)
Duration: 6 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 8-14lb in 6 weeks with a ‘bulking diet‘/4-6lb with a 2-3% reduction in body fat with a ‘cutting diet’.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: A time proven classic with a modern twist. Unlike other ‘Spawn’ stacks RIZEN actually contains Tren rather than ‘dienolone’ making it superior. Perfect for cutting/bulking. Notorious for strength gains, hardness and vascularity.
Possible Side Effects: Moderate. Lethargy, increased aggression, increased blood pressure and reduced libido are likely to some extent. There may also be a possibility of gyno in sensitive individuals.
Shredded Labs ALPHA-1 (Methyl-1-Alpha/CEL Alpha One Clone)
Methylated: Yes
Dosage: 40-60mg. N.B many users run 20-40mg in the first week to asses tolerance. Due to a relatively short half life dosages should be split around 5-6 hours apart.
Duration: 3-4 Weeks
Typical Results: Gains of 8-12lb are commonly reported in 3-4 weeks. Gains in excess of 20lb are certainly not unheard of.
OTC PCT: No
Overview: Extremely potent with a very quick onset, many users report noticeable gains in the first week. Exceptional strength and mass gains are common with this compound.
Possible Side Effects: High. ALPHA-1 is one of the most potent supplements available and is likely to affect: blood pressure, lipid values and cholesterol. We consider a cycle support supplement such as ‘Super Cycle’ essential with ALPHA-1.
Bron: muscletalk.co.uk.
