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Hoe moet je 'laden' voor een wedstrijd/fotoshoot?
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08Dennis08
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Ik ben benieuwd of een van de wedstrijdmannen het geheim prijs wil geven...
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olddutch
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er zitten toch nog meer voordelen aan de (kleur) stoffen in rode wijn voor de aders (ipv sterke drank) ?
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Thanks ibo!
'Kun je ook wat zeggen over hoe je precies moet depleten en wanneer je laatste training is pre contest.
Helaas is mijn karmaspuit voor deze 24u leeg...
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Ja dat ben ik zeker van plan, 2 weken vtv zuivel eruit.
Heb voor mezelf deze opzet gemaakt.
Comments?
1 week pre contest zout eruit.
1 week van tevoren beginnen te depleten(low carb)
tot een dag of 4-5 voor de wedstrijd zo zwaar mogelijk blijven trainen
2 dagen van tevoren laden beginnen.
Dag 1 300gram carbs
dag 2 400gram carbs
Vochtinname tot 1 dag van tevoren op 7/á 8L water houden.
Witte rijst verdelen over de dag(totaal van 2 kilo per dag.)
Aardappelen hier ook in verwerken ivm kalium(belangrijk bij gebruik diuretica)en weinig tot geen waterinname.(laden kan ook met ovenfriet)
(eventueel kalium extra suplementeren)
cashews of walnoten voor de vetten.
Op de dag zelf:
geweekte rozijnen(evt in rum voor wedstrijd)
Honing
Appelmoes
30 min van tevoren paar eetlepels rozijnen geweekt in alcohol(rum,wodka)
Hier nog een bruut stuk over depleten
Carb Depleting & Loading:
This method has been used as one of the most popular ways of preparing for a contest to date. Here's how it works. Carbohydrates are your body's main source of energy. Fat is your second. By depleting your carbs you are forcing your body to tap into all of its fat storage for energy. For the average bodybuilder (off-season weight 200lbs, 12%bf.) the final week goes something like this.
Monday: 75 grams of carbs from shredded wheat and brown rice.
Increasing protein intake by about 30 grams.
Tuesday: 25 Grams of Carbs.
Increasing your protein intake a further 30 grams.
Wednesday: Zero Carb Day!
Increasing protein intake a further 25 grams. This is hell day. The worst day of the whole diet. You will feel like shit. Flat, smooth and tiny as hell. I think I said a total of 4 words all day. Three of them being "I hate this". It was on this day that I almost quit. At lunch time I went into the gym and did a full body workout to use up all the muscle glycogen. I can tell you I honestly felt like shit. On this day you will truly be carb depleted. All I can say is get through it and go to bed as soon as possible, the day will be over soon.
Thursday: Carb Loading
300 Grams of Carbs throughout the day. Keep your protein intake the same.
Friday: 400-500 Grams of carbs.
Keeping your protein intake the same. Friday is also the day I cut out my water. At about 10 in the morning I take my last drink of water and take a small dose of a herbal diuretic. When it gets too much I take enough water to wet my mouth but I never take more than a sip. On Friday night at the weigh in, I join the other bodybuilders in eating peanut butter and jam on rice cakes. The extra calories fill out your muscles nicely and none of the fat will be stored as body fat until after the show. One thing to watch is the sodium however because of its water retaining effects.
Saturday: Show Time!
The morning of the show I have some shredded wheat, dry, with some more peanut butter and jam, and I'll scarf down a protein bar. I snack on chocolate covered raisins until I go on stage. The sugar helps bring out the vascularity. Again the most important thing I am watching is my sodium so I don't retain water. I try not to eat too much food between the morning and night show, maybe a protein bar or two and some yams to continue with the carb loading. One important snack to have is some bananas. The potassium in these will prevent cramping which is a major problem because you are so dehydrated.
Decarbing & The Theory Behind It
This is the method of decarbing. The theory behind it is that you deplete your muscle cells of their glycogen stores, so they are very apt to store glycogen in the muscle cells. This is probably due to the increase in glycogen storing enzymes. I have used this the past two years I have competed, and it has worked nicely however I felt like I lost a bit too much muscle by depleting myself of all the carbohydrates.
Your body will use protein as an energy source when it is in a depleted state. It will break down your muscles into amino acids and these are converted to glycogen in the liver. This is the major downfall of this method. Everyone is different. No two bodies are exactly alike, and each body will react differently to different methods of preparing for a competition. The key is finding the method which is right for you. Try this method, if you feel it wasn't as beneficial, try something else such as fat loading, without carb depletion.
Competition is a huge game of trial and error, with water, tanning, posing, everything! The best advice I can give to someone wanting to compete is to try several different methods during your off season and see which one your body responds best to. Keep training hard and if you have any more questions let me know via email. I have a competition in 11 weeks and I am beginning my diet on February 1st. I plan on writing weekly articles and posting weekly pictures to track my progress. See you at the gym!
Best of luck,
Heb voor mezelf deze opzet gemaakt.
Comments?
1 week pre contest zout eruit.
1 week van tevoren beginnen te depleten(low carb)
tot een dag of 4-5 voor de wedstrijd zo zwaar mogelijk blijven trainen
2 dagen van tevoren laden beginnen.
Dag 1 300gram carbs
dag 2 400gram carbs
Vochtinname tot 1 dag van tevoren op 7/á 8L water houden.
Witte rijst verdelen over de dag(totaal van 2 kilo per dag.)
Aardappelen hier ook in verwerken ivm kalium(belangrijk bij gebruik diuretica)en weinig tot geen waterinname.(laden kan ook met ovenfriet)
(eventueel kalium extra suplementeren)
cashews of walnoten voor de vetten.
Op de dag zelf:
geweekte rozijnen(evt in rum voor wedstrijd)
Honing
Appelmoes
30 min van tevoren paar eetlepels rozijnen geweekt in alcohol(rum,wodka)
Hier nog een bruut stuk over depleten
Carb Depleting & Loading:
This method has been used as one of the most popular ways of preparing for a contest to date. Here's how it works. Carbohydrates are your body's main source of energy. Fat is your second. By depleting your carbs you are forcing your body to tap into all of its fat storage for energy. For the average bodybuilder (off-season weight 200lbs, 12%bf.) the final week goes something like this.
Monday: 75 grams of carbs from shredded wheat and brown rice.
Increasing protein intake by about 30 grams.
Tuesday: 25 Grams of Carbs.
Increasing your protein intake a further 30 grams.
Wednesday: Zero Carb Day!
Increasing protein intake a further 25 grams. This is hell day. The worst day of the whole diet. You will feel like shit. Flat, smooth and tiny as hell. I think I said a total of 4 words all day. Three of them being "I hate this". It was on this day that I almost quit. At lunch time I went into the gym and did a full body workout to use up all the muscle glycogen. I can tell you I honestly felt like shit. On this day you will truly be carb depleted. All I can say is get through it and go to bed as soon as possible, the day will be over soon.
Thursday: Carb Loading
300 Grams of Carbs throughout the day. Keep your protein intake the same.
Friday: 400-500 Grams of carbs.
Keeping your protein intake the same. Friday is also the day I cut out my water. At about 10 in the morning I take my last drink of water and take a small dose of a herbal diuretic. When it gets too much I take enough water to wet my mouth but I never take more than a sip. On Friday night at the weigh in, I join the other bodybuilders in eating peanut butter and jam on rice cakes. The extra calories fill out your muscles nicely and none of the fat will be stored as body fat until after the show. One thing to watch is the sodium however because of its water retaining effects.
Saturday: Show Time!
The morning of the show I have some shredded wheat, dry, with some more peanut butter and jam, and I'll scarf down a protein bar. I snack on chocolate covered raisins until I go on stage. The sugar helps bring out the vascularity. Again the most important thing I am watching is my sodium so I don't retain water. I try not to eat too much food between the morning and night show, maybe a protein bar or two and some yams to continue with the carb loading. One important snack to have is some bananas. The potassium in these will prevent cramping which is a major problem because you are so dehydrated.
Decarbing & The Theory Behind It
This is the method of decarbing. The theory behind it is that you deplete your muscle cells of their glycogen stores, so they are very apt to store glycogen in the muscle cells. This is probably due to the increase in glycogen storing enzymes. I have used this the past two years I have competed, and it has worked nicely however I felt like I lost a bit too much muscle by depleting myself of all the carbohydrates.
Your body will use protein as an energy source when it is in a depleted state. It will break down your muscles into amino acids and these are converted to glycogen in the liver. This is the major downfall of this method. Everyone is different. No two bodies are exactly alike, and each body will react differently to different methods of preparing for a competition. The key is finding the method which is right for you. Try this method, if you feel it wasn't as beneficial, try something else such as fat loading, without carb depletion.
Competition is a huge game of trial and error, with water, tanning, posing, everything! The best advice I can give to someone wanting to compete is to try several different methods during your off season and see which one your body responds best to. Keep training hard and if you have any more questions let me know via email. I have a competition in 11 weeks and I am beginning my diet on February 1st. I plan on writing weekly articles and posting weekly pictures to track my progress. See you at the gym!
Best of luck,
08Dennis08
Competitive Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 24 jan 2008
- Berichten
- 2.383
- Waardering
- 84
- Lengte
- 1m78
- Massa
- 67kg
- Vetpercentage
- 11%
JvR90
Freaky Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 1 mrt 2007
- Berichten
- 6.209
- Waardering
- 220
- Lengte
- 1m90
- Massa
- 90kg
Ik drink ook zo'n 12liter per dag hoor. Still alive and well
grosje
Huge Freak
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Je kunt zonder problemen 7 liter per dag drinken als je het maar goed verspreid. Je moet dit alleen niet te lang doen zéker niet als je laag in natrium zit en diuretica gebruikt.
JvR90
Freaky Bodybuilder
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Klopt, want ik kan zwemen.
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JvR90
Freaky Bodybuilder
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- 220
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Voorarm
Competitive Bodybuilder
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- 16 okt 2007
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- 2.728
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- 116
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- 1m50
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