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Earth Is Amazing (video's)
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Nou, ik heb er een trauma aan overgehouden. Er zit totaal geen logica in het gedrag van Leeuwen.
Hoezo dat?Jammer dat er door mensen ingegrepen is
Ze hadden niet eens het fatsoen om een, in stukken gereten, en met een gebroken ruggengraat, creperende Kinky Tail een kogel door z'n kop te schieten toen de tegenstanders Mr. T achterna zaten. Daardoor kwam er nog een "tweede ronde" toen ze terugkwamen.
Er kwam één of ander wijf in beeld die zei "we mogen niet tussenkomen". Dude... Het enige wat we doen is tussenkomen!
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Die beelden gingen door merg en beenNou, ik heb er een trauma aan overgehouden. Er zit totaal geen logica in het gedrag van Leeuwen.
Hoezo dat?
Ze hadden niet eens het fatsoen om een, in stukken gereten, en met een gebroken ruggengraat, creperende Kinky Tail een kogel door z'n kop te schieten toen de tegenstanders Mr. T achterna zaten. Daardoor kwam er nog een "tweede ronde" toen ze terugkwamen.
Er kwam één of ander wijf in beeld die zei "we mogen niet tussenkomen". Dude... Het enige wat we doen is tussenkomen!
What really happened to the Mapogos ?
Does Mother Nature played her role...OR...was a human intervention the real factor of the demise The neverending story of Mapogos...
That the 6 Mapogos are cult is out of question. But were they really Super-Lions? Or how to explain the fact that they caused a lot of discussion through the whole Lodges of Sabi Sands? From 2006 to 2010 no other coalition of male lions could defeat them. Too powerful to fall in a natural way? YES! 6 male lions controlling the most areas of SS, known as the Blitzkrieg warriors, not a big deal for the Lodges who make their profit in the diversity of many lion clans. The tourists want to see LIONS in any part of the Game Reserve, not only in one of them. Males are the attractions, the tourists payed the money, so the Lodges must find a way to show them, no matter how.... By that time the 6 Mapogos were the only male lions and not a good investment. The foreign exchange had to come, howsoever, business as usual was the credo and nature had to be lied again. There are many ways how a strong male lion can loose his life: 1. during a hunt 2. during a fight against the other 3 of the Big Five 3. during a take-over 4. protecting his pride as a dominant male 5. the consequences of a disease 6. hunger during his time as a nomad and at last 7. be killed by poachers (human intervention). In 2010 4 Mapogos dominated the Western section and the other 2 the north, east and south part of Sabi Sands. Regular reunions maintained their close bond. They were the real Masters of Life and Death. How to understand the circumstance that 3 of them lost their lives within 6 months? Very easily. The Death of KT was probably the result of human intervention, the disappearance of Rasta also an influence of human intervention and the end of Dreadlocks a classic case of poaching. The Truth has to be told, someday, for all lion lovers over the whole Globe!
Giovi Bill, a passionate lion lover especially the Mapogos, presents a very interesting thesis:
“ The Human Intervention in the Mapogo Decline and those in constant Denial.
those people who deny the possibility of the active human intervention against the Mapogos which lead to their early decline refuse constantly to consider the following facts:
1) The Mapogos were deeply hated by the local interests because they had killed more than 100 lion, 40% of the lion population and 50% of the Hayne population.
2) the Mapogos went to every estate they killed or chased away all the lions and there were no lions to be observed by the guests. This was very unpleasant for the guests and the owners
3) The Majins have never attacked 2 lions together, they always attack a single lion in 1 vs 3 at least formation. Statistically they run away of 2 or more enemy lions.
4) In the night KT died, MrT was together with KT just until minutes before the main offense started. There was chasing around some time before the main offense starts. Both MrT and KT were roaring (spine chilling roars). All this info has been confirmed by Karin and Rundle and the other rangers in the lodge.
5) Why the Majingilane were split in 2 groups, and each group was running to different directions? Obviously KT was to chasing one group and MrT the other group of the 2 Majingilane. So the majingilane sensed that MrT was there with KT and took part in the whole commotion before the rangers come out.
Why the 2 Majins arrived late and one of them arrived walking (not running) in the scene where KT was fighting the 2 other majins. Obviously the 2 Majingilane realized that nobody is chasing them because MrT was neutralized they returned to their brothers.
6) Why MrT suddenly disappeared? What was the reason? Obviously something abnormal happened to him. Probably MrT was darted and sedated for some time. Because when he arrived at the scene of the fight he stumbled, he was disoriented and appeared unable to comprehend what was going down.
Instead of attacking immediately the Majingilane who was in front of him and was keeping KT down, MrT walked around and it took him several seconds to realize that there were enemy lions in front of him.
7) the info that MrT left KT in the last minute while the whole commotion was underway and the two coalitions have already involved is naive and serves only to disorient the public and cover up the possibility of human intervention.
8) some lodges had spoken openly against the Mapogos, Londolozi wrote very negative comments about the Mapogos, they called MrT's death "as the best it could happen"
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Some Conclusions about how MrT disappeared for 15 minutes:
I speculate that the darting took place while MrT and KT were standing after the initial commotion which took place after the Rangers had returned to the lodge.
If you watch the Documentary carefully, it says clearly that on their way back to the Lodge the Rangers noticed some "eyes in the dark" (something like that), which means the Majins were near. But here is the the very strange point. Why ALL Rangers returned to the Lodge when a fight could break out in any moment then
This is a point to think about, why they left the scene?
Probably after the Rangers returned to the lodge the unknown hunters moved into the area to dart MrT and there should not be anyone around to see them.
After the Rangers returned to the lodge there was an initial commotion (there is a report about it), the two coalitions run to each other probably there was some brief fight and chasing but then they set again apart. The Majingilane went in front of the Lodge and started roaring. This is also could be an indication that the Majins were not so confident to attack the Mlowathis and used the roaring as a deterrent. This is also an indication that MrT and KT prevailed in the initial commotion and this made the hunters to decide that Human Intervention should take place otherwise the Majins will lose the fight.
As I said the 4 Majins were in front of the Lodge roaring while the Mlowathis were somewhere behind the Tree Line. I believe at this stationary point the darting took place. And when KT realized that MrT had "faded" he took everything alone and attacked the 4 Majins because he realized MrT was neutralized, faded and also was vulnerable to be killed if the Majins come attacked MrT.
When the Majins saw KT coming out of the Tree Line they run away and split into 2 groups because they knew MrT was there but they did not know that MrT was "sleeping". But when they realized that MrT was not chasing them they returned and attacked KT from behind.
The fact that the 4 Majins split into 2 groups and run away is an indication that the 2 Mlowathis were winning the preliminary commotion and they could win the final fight too.
Lions don't run away if they are sure they could handle the situation and Majins were not.
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Elephant Plains Battle
Why Rasta was not killed by the Majingilane that night.
The audio is only 6 minutes long, this time is not enough for 4 lions to deadly injure one lion (Rasta) and injure seriously another (Pretty Boy).
The Majingilane have never attacked 2 lions together, they always attack a single lion in 1 vs 3 at least formation. Statistically they run away of 2 or more enemy lions.
The day after the fight the Majingilane were not in EP they have returned to the East, Malamala. If they were still in EP and have chased the 3 Mapogos away they would have killed PB who stayed behind while the 3 other Mapogos returned to the West. In fact it was the 3 Mapogos who chased the 4 majingilane out of EP.
PB returned to the west and joined his 3 Brothers 2 weeks later.”
What we can add is the fact that the mystery night at Elephant Plains happened on July the 9th 2010, which means Rasta must have been dead at that time. Then how is it possible that Rasta and Pretty Boy were seen days later, more precisely on July the 11th, together with their other 3 Mapogo brothers Very interesting, isn´t it? Everyone should decide for themselves what to believe but We don´t believe in the official versions anymore!
Does Mother Nature played her role...OR...was a human intervention the real factor of the demise
The neverending story of Mapogos...That the 6 Mapogos are cult is out of question. But were they really Super-Lions? Or how to explain the fact that they caused a lot of discussion through the whole Lodges of Sabi Sands? From 2006 to 2010 no other coalition of male lions could defeat them. Too powerful to fall in a natural way? YES! 6 male lions controlling the most areas of SS, known as the Blitzkrieg warriors, not a big deal for the Lodges who make their profit in the diversity of many lion clans. The tourists want to see LIONS in any part of the Game Reserve, not only in one of them. Males are the attractions, the tourists payed the money, so the Lodges must find a way to show them, no matter how.... By that time the 6 Mapogos were the only male lions and not a good investment. The foreign exchange had to come, howsoever, business as usual was the credo and nature had to be lied again. There are many ways how a strong male lion can loose his life: 1. during a hunt 2. during a fight against the other 3 of the Big Five 3. during a take-over 4. protecting his pride as a dominant male 5. the consequences of a disease 6. hunger during his time as a nomad and at last 7. be killed by poachers (human intervention). In 2010 4 Mapogos dominated the Western section and the other 2 the north, east and south part of Sabi Sands. Regular reunions maintained their close bond. They were the real Masters of Life and Death. How to understand the circumstance that 3 of them lost their lives within 6 months? Very easily. The Death of KT was probably the result of human intervention, the disappearance of Rasta also an influence of human intervention and the end of Dreadlocks a classic case of poaching. The Truth has to be told, someday, for all lion lovers over the whole Globe!
Giovi Bill, a passionate lion lover especially the Mapogos, presents a very interesting thesis:
“ The Human Intervention in the Mapogo Decline and those in constant Denial.
those people who deny the possibility of the active human intervention against the Mapogos which lead to their early decline refuse constantly to consider the following facts:
1) The Mapogos were deeply hated by the local interests because they had killed more than 100 lion, 40% of the lion population and 50% of the Hayne population.
2) the Mapogos went to every estate they killed or chased away all the lions and there were no lions to be observed by the guests. This was very unpleasant for the guests and the owners
3) The Majins have never attacked 2 lions together, they always attack a single lion in 1 vs 3 at least formation. Statistically they run away of 2 or more enemy lions.
4) In the night KT died, MrT was together with KT just until minutes before the main offense started. There was chasing around some time before the main offense starts. Both MrT and KT were roaring (spine chilling roars). All this info has been confirmed by Karin and Rundle and the other rangers in the lodge.
5) Why the Majingilane were split in 2 groups, and each group was running to different directions? Obviously KT was to chasing one group and MrT the other group of the 2 Majingilane. So the majingilane sensed that MrT was there with KT and took part in the whole commotion before the rangers come out.
Why the 2 Majins arrived late and one of them arrived walking (not running) in the scene where KT was fighting the 2 other majins. Obviously the 2 Majingilane realized that nobody is chasing them because MrT was neutralized they returned to their brothers.
6) Why MrT suddenly disappeared? What was the reason? Obviously something abnormal happened to him. Probably MrT was darted and sedated for some time. Because when he arrived at the scene of the fight he stumbled, he was disoriented and appeared unable to comprehend what was going down.
Instead of attacking immediately the Majingilane who was in front of him and was keeping KT down, MrT walked around and it took him several seconds to realize that there were enemy lions in front of him.
7) the info that MrT left KT in the last minute while the whole commotion was underway and the two coalitions have already involved is naive and serves only to disorient the public and cover up the possibility of human intervention.
8) some lodges had spoken openly against the Mapogos, Londolozi wrote very negative comments about the Mapogos, they called MrT's death "as the best it could happen"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Some Conclusions about how MrT disappeared for 15 minutes:
I speculate that the darting took place while MrT and KT were standing after the initial commotion which took place after the Rangers had returned to the lodge.
If you watch the Documentary carefully, it says clearly that on their way back to the Lodge the Rangers noticed some "eyes in the dark" (something like that), which means the Majins were near. But here is the the very strange point. Why ALL Rangers returned to the Lodge when a fight could break out in any moment then
This is a point to think about, why they left the scene?
Probably after the Rangers returned to the lodge the unknown hunters moved into the area to dart MrT and there should not be anyone around to see them.
After the Rangers returned to the lodge there was an initial commotion (there is a report about it), the two coalitions run to each other probably there was some brief fight and chasing but then they set again apart. The Majingilane went in front of the Lodge and started roaring. This is also could be an indication that the Majins were not so confident to attack the Mlowathis and used the roaring as a deterrent. This is also an indication that MrT and KT prevailed in the initial commotion and this made the hunters to decide that Human Intervention should take place otherwise the Majins will lose the fight.
As I said the 4 Majins were in front of the Lodge roaring while the Mlowathis were somewhere behind the Tree Line. I believe at this stationary point the darting took place. And when KT realized that MrT had "faded" he took everything alone and attacked the 4 Majins because he realized MrT was neutralized, faded and also was vulnerable to be killed if the Majins come attacked MrT.
When the Majins saw KT coming out of the Tree Line they run away and split into 2 groups because they knew MrT was there but they did not know that MrT was "sleeping". But when they realized that MrT was not chasing them they returned and attacked KT from behind.
The fact that the 4 Majins split into 2 groups and run away is an indication that the 2 Mlowathis were winning the preliminary commotion and they could win the final fight too.
Lions don't run away if they are sure they could handle the situation and Majins were not.
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Elephant Plains Battle
Why Rasta was not killed by the Majingilane that night.
The audio is only 6 minutes long, this time is not enough for 4 lions to deadly injure one lion (Rasta) and injure seriously another (Pretty Boy).
The Majingilane have never attacked 2 lions together, they always attack a single lion in 1 vs 3 at least formation. Statistically they run away of 2 or more enemy lions.
The day after the fight the Majingilane were not in EP they have returned to the East, Malamala. If they were still in EP and have chased the 3 Mapogos away they would have killed PB who stayed behind while the 3 other Mapogos returned to the West. In fact it was the 3 Mapogos who chased the 4 majingilane out of EP.
PB returned to the west and joined his 3 Brothers 2 weeks later.”
What we can add is the fact that the mystery night at Elephant Plains happened on July the 9th 2010, which means Rasta must have been dead at that time. Then how is it possible that Rasta and Pretty Boy were seen days later, more precisely on July the 11th, together with their other 3 Mapogo brothers
Very interesting, isn´t it? Everyone should decide for themselves what to believe but We don´t believe in the official versions anymore!
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Ze hadden de naam van Mr. T moeten veranderen naar Leonidas. Compleet naar de kloten wou hij nog steeds z'n tegenstanders te lijf gaan. 
Als ik het me juist herinner waren z'n achterpoten al verlamd op dat moment.
Als ik het me juist herinner waren z'n achterpoten al verlamd op dat moment.
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Ja z’n rug hadden ze gebroken, achterpoten verlamdZe hadden de naam van Mr. T moeten veranderen naar Leonidas. Compleet naar de kloten wou hij nog steeds z'n tegenstanders te lijf gaan.
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Beelden van mach loop zijn ook altijd vet.
Toch lijkt me het vanuit de cockpit het leukst.
