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Nieuws Artikel op T Nation over het AAS gebruik van een IFBB Pro
Opajohan
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ik ga volgende maand aan de tren, ben benieuwd, hoorde wel dat je als je tren in je fl**ker hebt je alleen maar wil trainen en enorm gefocust bent klopt dat?
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Als je eenmaal traint wel, de rest van de dag ben je enorm gefocust op irritaties en dingen die je tijd totaal niet waard zijn
Opajohan
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Als je eenmaal traint wel, de rest van de dag ben je enorm gefocust op irritaties en dingen die je tijd totaal niet waard zijn
hahaha dat gaat wat worden, bedankt voor je reply.
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Ik merk geen verschil tussen 600 of 1200 tren qua sides. Ik vond hoog test en hoog tren wel wat zwaarder dan laag test en hoog tren.
newinthegame
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Trainen gaat geweldig en voor de rest ben ik alleen maar moe. Nu de cardio maar beetje opschroeven om fittere worden. Van irritaties en shit niet zoveel last. Persoonsgebonden en omgevingsgebonden denk ik.
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Cardio ging goed zekerIk zat op 850 test 1050 tren
dova
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Dit komt uit een nieuwsbrief van Jerry Brainum :
His actual diet for the Mr.Olympia contest is what follows:
Meal one
1 cup uncooked oatmeal, mixed with plain water
Protein shake, equal to 80 grams of protein using a whey protein isolate mixed in water
Morning vitamins: 2 multi-minerals;15 milligrams of zinc; 400 units of vitamin E; 300 milligrams of magnesium; 2,000 milligrams of vitamin C; 50 milligrams of coenzyme Q10.
Meal two
12 ounces boneless, skinless chicken breast
12 ounce baked potato
32 ounces water or Chrystal light (calorie-free beverage)
Meal three
12 ounces of boneless, skinless turkey breast
10 ounce baked potato
32 ounces of water or Chrystal light
Meal four
12 ounces of boneless, skinless chicken breast
1 cup cooked rice
32 ounces of water or Chrystal light
Meal five
12 ounces lean steak
10 ounce baked potato
32 ounces water or Chrystal light
Meal six
Protein shake containing 80 gram of protein, whey isolate mixed in water
Repeat morning vitamin intake, and add one iron tablet.
Discussion of the diet program
This diet is typical of that of used by the majority of both amateur and professional bodybuilding competitors. It is top heavy in protein, containing over 300 grams per day. Since the recommended intake of protein for bodybuilding purposes is a range of 1.7-3.0 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight, X was getting more than sufficient protein to maintain his lean mass, and also protect against loss of lean mass due to his low body fat level. The protein sources were all low-fat, which ostensibly was done to maintain a lower total daily caloric intake. One thing that stands out in the diet is the rather large intake of water, which amounts to a quart per meal, or at least a gallon a day. Many bodybuilders reduce their water intake prior to a contest, thinking that this will promote a "drier" appearance and more muscular definition. In fact, the less water you drink, the more water your body holds. With a severe restriction of water intake, your body promotes the release of hormones that serve to preserve essential fluid levels, including that of the blood, which is over 90% water. So what happens is that as you reduce water intake, you body steps up secretion of both aldosterone from the kidneys (which retains sodium and promotes potassium excretion), along with antidiuretic hormone from the posterior pituitary gland.The net effect is a paradoxical retention of water when water intake is restricted. So it was a good idea for X to consume that volume of water in this pre-contest regime. The carbohydrate content is low, but not zero. This would serve to lower resting insulin levels, allowing X to more efficiently burn fat when he trains.
His supplement program isn't bad, but is far from complete. He should have also ingested a vitamin-mineral supplement, since there is no sign of any B-complex vitamins in his program. Among other functions, B-vitamins play an integral role in helping cells produce energy, as well as in the metabolism of protein, fats, and carbohydrates. He does ingest a multi-mineral supplement, which is important, since the diet is devoid of some vital minerals, including calcium and chromium, and a few others.But he does ingest extra magnesium and zinc. The 15 milligrams of zinc he ingests twice each day for a total of 30 milligrams of zinc is about the right amount. He also ingests 300 milligrams of magnesium twice daily, but the source of the magnesium isn't listed. Some forms are far more easy to absorb than others. For example, magnesium oxide supplies a large dose of elemental magnesium, but it is difficult to absorb. A better choice would be a magnesium glycinate supplement. It's a good idea to divide the dose of the magnesium, since ingesting more than 300 milligrams at a time can lead to diarrhea in many people (think of what Milk of Magnesia is used for). The vitamin E is about right at 800 units a day, while taking 2, 000 milligrams of vitamin C at a time is a bit too much. It won't cause any side effects to ingest that much, but since the maximum plasma level of C is only 200 milligrams, taking much more than that will do nothing more than cause you to pee within a short time. On the other hand, that dose of C also serves as a natural diuretic, causing the elimination of excess water, so perhaps there was some rhyme to his reason after all with the C intake. I would boost the coenzyme Q10 a bit more, to about 100 milligrams twice a day. Q10 is a great antioxidant, especially in the vulnerable mitochondria portion of cells,, where oxidation can cause a lot of damage.
The pre-contest drug program
As I noted previously, I definitely do not recommend this drug program. It's listed for informational purposes only and to illustrate precisely what a top elite pro bodybuilder uses. You should keep in mind that this program was designed specifically for this man, and it may not work for anyone else, but may cause some serious medical issues. That being said, here is the program:
Growth hormone: There is no dose listed in the program, but a typical dose range for pro bodybuilders is 4 to 8 units a day. This is still 4 to 8-times higher than any therapeutic dose of the hormone, and far higher than that used to treat HGH deficiency in older people. GH taken in the dose range above, can cause many problems, such as carpal tunnel syndrome, a local impingement of nerves in the wrist that often requires surgery to correct. I know of at least three well-known male and one female pro bodybuilders who had to have surgery to treat CTS after using HGH too long.HGH is not very anabolic itself, but is more so when combined with anabolic steroids and insulin. It may help oxidize more body fat, and preserve muscle mass under dieting conditions. When I interviewed bodybuilders at the 1990 Mr.Olympia contest in Chicago, which remains the only drug-tested Mr.Olympia event, a few confided to me that while they got off steroids to compete in the show, they remained on growth hormone, which then and still is, not tested in standard drug tests. The consensus was that while GH appeared to preserve their muscle size, it did nothing at all to bolster that size, but provided a minor fat-reduction effect.
Winstrol-V- 1cc every other day starting two months out from the contest. Winstrol-V is an injectable veterinary anabolic steroid. It is highly anabolic, and does not convert into estrogen to any significant degree. It does produce androgenic side effects, such as hair loss, acne, and will virilize women who use it. While the oral version of Winstrol or Stanozolol could produce toxic liver effects, this is less evident with the injectable version. On the other hand, similarly to all veterinary drugs, it does not have the same extent of quality control compared to drugs slated for human usage. This opens the door to possible contamination with heavy metals and even bacteria, depending on where and who makes the drug. The dose X used is a standard dose, although this is not based on any human evidence, other than anecdotal use by others.
Sustanon-3 injections a week. Sustanon is a popular injectable steroid that contains four different testosterone esters that are released at various times. Thus, it contains both rapidly released testosterone, as well as more sustained released forms of testosterone (hence the name "Sustanon"), With Sustanon 250, an injection initially leads to a rapid rise in plasma testosterone levels within 24 to 49 hours, while the slower release of the other contained forms of testosterone in the drug result in sustained elevations of testosterone for 21 days. The usual administration of Sustanon for bodybuilding purposes involves no more than one injection, every 7 to 10 days. Yet X was injecting it three times a week, which is senseless from both a bodybuilding and medical point of view. This level of use of the drug is far more likely to lead to serious side effects. Indeed, a few months following the successful Mr.Olympia appearance of X, he came up to me at a local gym and told me that he and his wife were trying to have a baby, but he was infertile. I then suggested a program that might restore his fertility, which I charged him nothing for--unlike his contest coach. He never got back to me about whether he opted to try my suggestions, but I did hear that he and his wife did welcome a baby into their lives, and the child wasn't adopted.
Primobolan Depot-3 injections a week. This is a "cutting drug" with the reputation of producing a greater degree of muscle hardness when used in conjunction with other steroid drugs. This drug was a favorite of Arnold Schwarzenegger when he competed, and I once witnessed Arnold giving the drug to a few of the top bodybuilders of the 70s era at his Santa Monica apartment. I was the only person in the room who didn't get the shot. But two other future Mr.Olympia winners did, subjecting their exposed butts to Arnold's injection technique, which duplicated the throwing of a dart into the wall. Ouch!
Propionate- It's unclear what this refers to. The directions given to X were to "take 200 milligram every time you take a Sustanon." If it's testosterone propionate, that would make little sense, since Sustanon already contains a propionate, and adding more would only serve to promote water retention and estrogenic effects , which isn't desirable in a pre-contest regime.
Anavar- 5 in the morning, 5 at night. Anavar is one of the more popular oral anabolic steroid drugs, with a reputation of few side effects yet imparting a good anabolic effect. Similarly to other oral anabolic drugs, if taken in excess it could cause liver and cardiovascular side effects.Anavar, generically known as Oxandrolone, is one of the few oral anabolic steroids still available with a prescription in the United States. The primary reason for its continued availability is to treat HIV patients. Since Oxandrolone is about 6-times more anabolic than testosterone, yet shows a low side effect profile, it may assist in helping to maintain lean mass in the HIV patients. Loss of lean mass in HIV is considered a harbinger of imminent death. The newer version of oxandrolone is marketed as Oxandrin, and is considerably more expensive than the original Anavar preparation. X's dose of Anavar is conservative, since many other bodybuilders at his level ingest up to 25 milligrams or more a day. But like any other steroid, the chances of side effects with Anavar depend on how much you use, and how long you use it.
Proviron- 3 morning, 3 evening. This was an anabolic steroid, also known as mesterolone, that was usually used to help block the effects of excess estrogen, such as water retention, and gynecomastia or male breast formation. Whether it was effective for this purpose is highly questionable, and it is not around anymore anyway except through questionable black market sources, although one company in Thailand also markets it. Another property of Proviron that is desirable to bodybuilders is the fact that it forms a tight bind with sex-hormone binding globulin (SHBG). SHBG is the primary protein-based carrier of testosterone and other steroids, including estrogen in the blood. The thought is that, by tying up SHBG, Proviron will permit higher free or active levels of other steroids in the blood. Whether this effect is actually significant is still a matter of speculation, however. Since Proviron is a DHT-based drug, it was not subject to aromatization, which means that it didn't convert into estrogen, but could produce DHT-based effects, such as prostate enlargement, male pattern baldness, and acne.
Testlac- (testolactone)- 3 a day, one in the morning, one in the afternoon, one in the evening. Testlac is a first-generation aromatase-inhibitor,meaning that it prevents the conversion of androgens, such as testosterone, into estrogen. Oddly enough, Teslac itself is an anabolic steroid drug, but it's never used for that purpose in bodybuilding. This drug is a curious choice for this program, since it's much weaker in its actions against aromatase compared to newer drugs, such as anastrozole or Arimidex and others. The only medical indication for Teslac is in the treatment of breast cancer, and even that use has long been superseded by the newer or third generation of aromatase-inhibitors. This drug, along with Nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate, were the first drugs used by bodybuilders to counter the effects of estrogen when on an anabolic steroid regime. What the rationale is for using this older drug in this program when there are far more effective drugs for the same purpose remains a mystery.
Cytomel- This is a T3 thyroid drug. T3 is the active form of thyroid horomone, which controls the resting metabolic rate. X was told to take a 25-microgram tablet prior to bed, which is a conservative dose that likely would not interfere with muscle mass, but may help retain resting metabolism under dieting conditions. Ingesting conservative doses of Cytomel would act to maintain a optimal resting metabolic rate under stringent dieting conditions, which in turn would serve to maximize body fat losses.Cytomel, however, is a potent form of thyroid, and taking an excessive dose would lead to catabolic effects in muscle tissue. This effect would likely be offset by concomitant use of anabolic steroids and GH.
Clenbuterol- Take 2 days on, 2 days off, starting with 4 a day (2 in the morning, 2 in the afternoon). Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist drug used to treat asthma. In bodybuilding, it's used as a "cutting drug" to help lose excess fat. The two day on, two day off schedule is used to prevent the beta adrenergic cell receptors that the drug interacts with from shutting down prematurely. Used in excess, it can cause heart problems, nausea, and other side effects. It was said to have played a major role in the death of another pro bodybuilder, Mohammad Benaziza years ago. Although it also promotes muscle mass increases in animals, the doses used are far higher than would be tolerable for human use, and would quickly lead to serious heart problems.
A month prior to the contest, X was told to add another drug, Cytadren, to his regime. Cytadren blocks the synthesis of steroid hormones through inhibition of a rate-limiting enzyme, including both estrogen and cortisol, and is used as a cutting drug prior to a contest. It also appears to produce a considerable loss of excess water retention. Cytadren is normally used to treat Cushing's disease, which involves an excess of cortisol, and sometimes is also used to treat breast cancer. While a lower dose (250 milligrams) is enough to block aromatase (the enzyme that converts androgens into estrogen) by up to 92%, it takes about 1,000 milligrams to block cortisol synthesis. Cytadren, when taken in higher doses of more than 2 tablets a day, commonly produces side effects such as extreme fatigue and sleepiness. Several years ago, while attending the Arnold bodybuilding contest in Columbus, Ohio, I was called to the room of one of the top competitors at the show. He was having severe problems after having just competed in the pre-judging of the contest. When I arrived at his room, he was lying across the bed with his arms out to the side Crucifix-style. He told me that he was so weak that he couldn't move. I asked him what he had taken recently, and he replied,"Cytadren and Orimeton." Immediately I knew what the problem was. Those two drugs are one and the same,aminoglutethimide, just different trade names--which the bodybuilder hadn't realized. I told his assistant to get him water and quinine, as well as minerals. He ingested this combo, recovering enough to win the contest later that night. In his autobiography written several years later, he referred to me as "Jerry Brenner," and credited me with not only helping him to win the show, but also with saving his life. I wouldn't go that far, but I was glad that things turned out okay for him. The Cytadren schedule used by X is as follows:
4 weeks before contest- take 2 daily, one at meal #1, another at meal#5
3 weeks- 3 daily, at meals #1, #3, and #6
2 weeks prior to contest- 4 daily, at meals #1, #3, #5, and #6.
1 week out-Continue taking 4 a day.
The last month, he also added one more anabolic steroid to his regime, Halotestin, an oral steroid with a reputation for boosting muscle definition and fostering a "hard appearance" when taken prior to a contest, but which is also very hard on the liver. He ingested 30 milligrams daily, 1 1/2 tablets in the morning, and 1-1/2 tablets in the evening. This is a standard "Pro" daily dose of Halotestin, also known as fluoxymesterolone. Halotestin also has a small role in history, since it was used by President John.F Kennedy to counter the effects of the cortisol he has to take to treat his Addison's disease (Addison's produces deficient cortisol states). Some speculate that the libido-boosting effects of Halotestin may have partially explained JFK's many extramarital affairs. JFK himself was once reported to have said,"If I don't get laid at least three times a day, I get severe headaches."
Notably missing from this drug regime is insulin, which was de rigueur among pro bodybuilders when X competed. Why he or the "coach" that he worked with opted not to include insulin is not known. But it probably does explain why X, in contrast to many of his competitors, didn't display the bloated gut appearance often seen with bodybuilders who use a combination of growth hormone, steroids, and insulin. When it is used, the main purpose is to obtain a synergistic anabolic effect with steroids, as well as to counter some of the side effects associated with growth hormone. Insulin also promotes glycogen synthesis in muscle, providing a "fuller" appearance to the muscles.
His actual diet for the Mr.Olympia contest is what follows:
Meal one
1 cup uncooked oatmeal, mixed with plain water
Protein shake, equal to 80 grams of protein using a whey protein isolate mixed in water
Morning vitamins: 2 multi-minerals;15 milligrams of zinc; 400 units of vitamin E; 300 milligrams of magnesium; 2,000 milligrams of vitamin C; 50 milligrams of coenzyme Q10.
Meal two
12 ounces boneless, skinless chicken breast
12 ounce baked potato
32 ounces water or Chrystal light (calorie-free beverage)
Meal three
12 ounces of boneless, skinless turkey breast
10 ounce baked potato
32 ounces of water or Chrystal light
Meal four
12 ounces of boneless, skinless chicken breast
1 cup cooked rice
32 ounces of water or Chrystal light
Meal five
12 ounces lean steak
10 ounce baked potato
32 ounces water or Chrystal light
Meal six
Protein shake containing 80 gram of protein, whey isolate mixed in water
Repeat morning vitamin intake, and add one iron tablet.
Discussion of the diet program
This diet is typical of that of used by the majority of both amateur and professional bodybuilding competitors. It is top heavy in protein, containing over 300 grams per day. Since the recommended intake of protein for bodybuilding purposes is a range of 1.7-3.0 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight, X was getting more than sufficient protein to maintain his lean mass, and also protect against loss of lean mass due to his low body fat level. The protein sources were all low-fat, which ostensibly was done to maintain a lower total daily caloric intake. One thing that stands out in the diet is the rather large intake of water, which amounts to a quart per meal, or at least a gallon a day. Many bodybuilders reduce their water intake prior to a contest, thinking that this will promote a "drier" appearance and more muscular definition. In fact, the less water you drink, the more water your body holds. With a severe restriction of water intake, your body promotes the release of hormones that serve to preserve essential fluid levels, including that of the blood, which is over 90% water. So what happens is that as you reduce water intake, you body steps up secretion of both aldosterone from the kidneys (which retains sodium and promotes potassium excretion), along with antidiuretic hormone from the posterior pituitary gland.The net effect is a paradoxical retention of water when water intake is restricted. So it was a good idea for X to consume that volume of water in this pre-contest regime. The carbohydrate content is low, but not zero. This would serve to lower resting insulin levels, allowing X to more efficiently burn fat when he trains.
His supplement program isn't bad, but is far from complete. He should have also ingested a vitamin-mineral supplement, since there is no sign of any B-complex vitamins in his program. Among other functions, B-vitamins play an integral role in helping cells produce energy, as well as in the metabolism of protein, fats, and carbohydrates. He does ingest a multi-mineral supplement, which is important, since the diet is devoid of some vital minerals, including calcium and chromium, and a few others.But he does ingest extra magnesium and zinc. The 15 milligrams of zinc he ingests twice each day for a total of 30 milligrams of zinc is about the right amount. He also ingests 300 milligrams of magnesium twice daily, but the source of the magnesium isn't listed. Some forms are far more easy to absorb than others. For example, magnesium oxide supplies a large dose of elemental magnesium, but it is difficult to absorb. A better choice would be a magnesium glycinate supplement. It's a good idea to divide the dose of the magnesium, since ingesting more than 300 milligrams at a time can lead to diarrhea in many people (think of what Milk of Magnesia is used for). The vitamin E is about right at 800 units a day, while taking 2, 000 milligrams of vitamin C at a time is a bit too much. It won't cause any side effects to ingest that much, but since the maximum plasma level of C is only 200 milligrams, taking much more than that will do nothing more than cause you to pee within a short time. On the other hand, that dose of C also serves as a natural diuretic, causing the elimination of excess water, so perhaps there was some rhyme to his reason after all with the C intake. I would boost the coenzyme Q10 a bit more, to about 100 milligrams twice a day. Q10 is a great antioxidant, especially in the vulnerable mitochondria portion of cells,, where oxidation can cause a lot of damage.
The pre-contest drug program
As I noted previously, I definitely do not recommend this drug program. It's listed for informational purposes only and to illustrate precisely what a top elite pro bodybuilder uses. You should keep in mind that this program was designed specifically for this man, and it may not work for anyone else, but may cause some serious medical issues. That being said, here is the program:
Growth hormone: There is no dose listed in the program, but a typical dose range for pro bodybuilders is 4 to 8 units a day. This is still 4 to 8-times higher than any therapeutic dose of the hormone, and far higher than that used to treat HGH deficiency in older people. GH taken in the dose range above, can cause many problems, such as carpal tunnel syndrome, a local impingement of nerves in the wrist that often requires surgery to correct. I know of at least three well-known male and one female pro bodybuilders who had to have surgery to treat CTS after using HGH too long.HGH is not very anabolic itself, but is more so when combined with anabolic steroids and insulin. It may help oxidize more body fat, and preserve muscle mass under dieting conditions. When I interviewed bodybuilders at the 1990 Mr.Olympia contest in Chicago, which remains the only drug-tested Mr.Olympia event, a few confided to me that while they got off steroids to compete in the show, they remained on growth hormone, which then and still is, not tested in standard drug tests. The consensus was that while GH appeared to preserve their muscle size, it did nothing at all to bolster that size, but provided a minor fat-reduction effect.
Winstrol-V- 1cc every other day starting two months out from the contest. Winstrol-V is an injectable veterinary anabolic steroid. It is highly anabolic, and does not convert into estrogen to any significant degree. It does produce androgenic side effects, such as hair loss, acne, and will virilize women who use it. While the oral version of Winstrol or Stanozolol could produce toxic liver effects, this is less evident with the injectable version. On the other hand, similarly to all veterinary drugs, it does not have the same extent of quality control compared to drugs slated for human usage. This opens the door to possible contamination with heavy metals and even bacteria, depending on where and who makes the drug. The dose X used is a standard dose, although this is not based on any human evidence, other than anecdotal use by others.
Sustanon-3 injections a week. Sustanon is a popular injectable steroid that contains four different testosterone esters that are released at various times. Thus, it contains both rapidly released testosterone, as well as more sustained released forms of testosterone (hence the name "Sustanon"), With Sustanon 250, an injection initially leads to a rapid rise in plasma testosterone levels within 24 to 49 hours, while the slower release of the other contained forms of testosterone in the drug result in sustained elevations of testosterone for 21 days. The usual administration of Sustanon for bodybuilding purposes involves no more than one injection, every 7 to 10 days. Yet X was injecting it three times a week, which is senseless from both a bodybuilding and medical point of view. This level of use of the drug is far more likely to lead to serious side effects. Indeed, a few months following the successful Mr.Olympia appearance of X, he came up to me at a local gym and told me that he and his wife were trying to have a baby, but he was infertile. I then suggested a program that might restore his fertility, which I charged him nothing for--unlike his contest coach. He never got back to me about whether he opted to try my suggestions, but I did hear that he and his wife did welcome a baby into their lives, and the child wasn't adopted.
Primobolan Depot-3 injections a week. This is a "cutting drug" with the reputation of producing a greater degree of muscle hardness when used in conjunction with other steroid drugs. This drug was a favorite of Arnold Schwarzenegger when he competed, and I once witnessed Arnold giving the drug to a few of the top bodybuilders of the 70s era at his Santa Monica apartment. I was the only person in the room who didn't get the shot. But two other future Mr.Olympia winners did, subjecting their exposed butts to Arnold's injection technique, which duplicated the throwing of a dart into the wall. Ouch!
Propionate- It's unclear what this refers to. The directions given to X were to "take 200 milligram every time you take a Sustanon." If it's testosterone propionate, that would make little sense, since Sustanon already contains a propionate, and adding more would only serve to promote water retention and estrogenic effects , which isn't desirable in a pre-contest regime.
Anavar- 5 in the morning, 5 at night. Anavar is one of the more popular oral anabolic steroid drugs, with a reputation of few side effects yet imparting a good anabolic effect. Similarly to other oral anabolic drugs, if taken in excess it could cause liver and cardiovascular side effects.Anavar, generically known as Oxandrolone, is one of the few oral anabolic steroids still available with a prescription in the United States. The primary reason for its continued availability is to treat HIV patients. Since Oxandrolone is about 6-times more anabolic than testosterone, yet shows a low side effect profile, it may assist in helping to maintain lean mass in the HIV patients. Loss of lean mass in HIV is considered a harbinger of imminent death. The newer version of oxandrolone is marketed as Oxandrin, and is considerably more expensive than the original Anavar preparation. X's dose of Anavar is conservative, since many other bodybuilders at his level ingest up to 25 milligrams or more a day. But like any other steroid, the chances of side effects with Anavar depend on how much you use, and how long you use it.
Proviron- 3 morning, 3 evening. This was an anabolic steroid, also known as mesterolone, that was usually used to help block the effects of excess estrogen, such as water retention, and gynecomastia or male breast formation. Whether it was effective for this purpose is highly questionable, and it is not around anymore anyway except through questionable black market sources, although one company in Thailand also markets it. Another property of Proviron that is desirable to bodybuilders is the fact that it forms a tight bind with sex-hormone binding globulin (SHBG). SHBG is the primary protein-based carrier of testosterone and other steroids, including estrogen in the blood. The thought is that, by tying up SHBG, Proviron will permit higher free or active levels of other steroids in the blood. Whether this effect is actually significant is still a matter of speculation, however. Since Proviron is a DHT-based drug, it was not subject to aromatization, which means that it didn't convert into estrogen, but could produce DHT-based effects, such as prostate enlargement, male pattern baldness, and acne.
Testlac- (testolactone)- 3 a day, one in the morning, one in the afternoon, one in the evening. Testlac is a first-generation aromatase-inhibitor,meaning that it prevents the conversion of androgens, such as testosterone, into estrogen. Oddly enough, Teslac itself is an anabolic steroid drug, but it's never used for that purpose in bodybuilding. This drug is a curious choice for this program, since it's much weaker in its actions against aromatase compared to newer drugs, such as anastrozole or Arimidex and others. The only medical indication for Teslac is in the treatment of breast cancer, and even that use has long been superseded by the newer or third generation of aromatase-inhibitors. This drug, along with Nolvadex or tamoxifen citrate, were the first drugs used by bodybuilders to counter the effects of estrogen when on an anabolic steroid regime. What the rationale is for using this older drug in this program when there are far more effective drugs for the same purpose remains a mystery.
Cytomel- This is a T3 thyroid drug. T3 is the active form of thyroid horomone, which controls the resting metabolic rate. X was told to take a 25-microgram tablet prior to bed, which is a conservative dose that likely would not interfere with muscle mass, but may help retain resting metabolism under dieting conditions. Ingesting conservative doses of Cytomel would act to maintain a optimal resting metabolic rate under stringent dieting conditions, which in turn would serve to maximize body fat losses.Cytomel, however, is a potent form of thyroid, and taking an excessive dose would lead to catabolic effects in muscle tissue. This effect would likely be offset by concomitant use of anabolic steroids and GH.
Clenbuterol- Take 2 days on, 2 days off, starting with 4 a day (2 in the morning, 2 in the afternoon). Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist drug used to treat asthma. In bodybuilding, it's used as a "cutting drug" to help lose excess fat. The two day on, two day off schedule is used to prevent the beta adrenergic cell receptors that the drug interacts with from shutting down prematurely. Used in excess, it can cause heart problems, nausea, and other side effects. It was said to have played a major role in the death of another pro bodybuilder, Mohammad Benaziza years ago. Although it also promotes muscle mass increases in animals, the doses used are far higher than would be tolerable for human use, and would quickly lead to serious heart problems.
A month prior to the contest, X was told to add another drug, Cytadren, to his regime. Cytadren blocks the synthesis of steroid hormones through inhibition of a rate-limiting enzyme, including both estrogen and cortisol, and is used as a cutting drug prior to a contest. It also appears to produce a considerable loss of excess water retention. Cytadren is normally used to treat Cushing's disease, which involves an excess of cortisol, and sometimes is also used to treat breast cancer. While a lower dose (250 milligrams) is enough to block aromatase (the enzyme that converts androgens into estrogen) by up to 92%, it takes about 1,000 milligrams to block cortisol synthesis. Cytadren, when taken in higher doses of more than 2 tablets a day, commonly produces side effects such as extreme fatigue and sleepiness. Several years ago, while attending the Arnold bodybuilding contest in Columbus, Ohio, I was called to the room of one of the top competitors at the show. He was having severe problems after having just competed in the pre-judging of the contest. When I arrived at his room, he was lying across the bed with his arms out to the side Crucifix-style. He told me that he was so weak that he couldn't move. I asked him what he had taken recently, and he replied,"Cytadren and Orimeton." Immediately I knew what the problem was. Those two drugs are one and the same,aminoglutethimide, just different trade names--which the bodybuilder hadn't realized. I told his assistant to get him water and quinine, as well as minerals. He ingested this combo, recovering enough to win the contest later that night. In his autobiography written several years later, he referred to me as "Jerry Brenner," and credited me with not only helping him to win the show, but also with saving his life. I wouldn't go that far, but I was glad that things turned out okay for him. The Cytadren schedule used by X is as follows:
4 weeks before contest- take 2 daily, one at meal #1, another at meal#5
3 weeks- 3 daily, at meals #1, #3, and #6
2 weeks prior to contest- 4 daily, at meals #1, #3, #5, and #6.
1 week out-Continue taking 4 a day.
The last month, he also added one more anabolic steroid to his regime, Halotestin, an oral steroid with a reputation for boosting muscle definition and fostering a "hard appearance" when taken prior to a contest, but which is also very hard on the liver. He ingested 30 milligrams daily, 1 1/2 tablets in the morning, and 1-1/2 tablets in the evening. This is a standard "Pro" daily dose of Halotestin, also known as fluoxymesterolone. Halotestin also has a small role in history, since it was used by President John.F Kennedy to counter the effects of the cortisol he has to take to treat his Addison's disease (Addison's produces deficient cortisol states). Some speculate that the libido-boosting effects of Halotestin may have partially explained JFK's many extramarital affairs. JFK himself was once reported to have said,"If I don't get laid at least three times a day, I get severe headaches."
Notably missing from this drug regime is insulin, which was de rigueur among pro bodybuilders when X competed. Why he or the "coach" that he worked with opted not to include insulin is not known. But it probably does explain why X, in contrast to many of his competitors, didn't display the bloated gut appearance often seen with bodybuilders who use a combination of growth hormone, steroids, and insulin. When it is used, the main purpose is to obtain a synergistic anabolic effect with steroids, as well as to counter some of the side effects associated with growth hormone. Insulin also promotes glycogen synthesis in muscle, providing a "fuller" appearance to the muscles.
Trenny
Dutch Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 13 mrt 2014
- Berichten
- 636
- Waardering
- 39
- Lengte
- 1m80
- Massa
- 96kg
- Vetpercentage
- 12%
Huehuehue vd week nog 15 minuten gedaan, 250 test 800 tren atm
Manmanman, de kramp in m'n poten
- Lid sinds
- 29 dec 2007
- Berichten
- 1.078
- Waardering
- 145
- Lengte
- 1m78
- Massa
- 100kg
- Vetpercentage
- 10%
Opajohan
Dutch Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 24 aug 2014
- Berichten
- 437
- Waardering
- 16
- Lengte
- 1m80
- Massa
- 85kg
hahah bedankt voor je reply dat gaat knallen worden straks!
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Een lever is fucking sterk, een maatje van mij arnold buurman een van de beste bodybuilders uit nederland ooit.
Heeft wel eens 200mg halotestin met 100mg winstrol tergelijk genomen voor 8 weken geen grap, en hij was de eerste in nederland die met hgh/sth enz ging experimenten, hij is wel maar 42 jaar geworden.
Dat was ook zo een fucking gek die elke dag 1 gram test zetten enz.
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Een lever is fucking sterk, een maatje van mij arnold buurman een van de beste bodybuilders uit nederland ooit.
Heeft wel eens 200mg halotestin met 100mg winstrol tergelijk genomen voor 8 weken geen grap, en hij was de eerste in nederland die met hgh/sth enz ging experimenten, hij is wel maar 42 jaar geworden.
Dat was ook zo een fucking gek die elke dag 1 gram test zetten enz.
Wat een fucking monster was dat
- Lid sinds
- 16 jan 2011
- Berichten
- 3.392
- Waardering
- 123
- Lengte
- 1m89
- Massa
- 105kg
- Vetpercentage
- 7%
Haha leuk dat je vraagt..
Ik kon niet eens een berg op fietsen en trappen lopen was nog nooit zo zwaar geweest
newinthegame
Freaky Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 1 apr 2011
- Berichten
- 5.153
- Waardering
- 406
- Lengte
- 1m91
- Massa
- 119kg
- Vetpercentage
- 15%
hahah bedankt voor je reply dat gaat knallen worden straks!
---------- Toegevoegd om 12:56 ---------- De post hierboven werd geplaatst om 12:52 ----------
Een lever is fucking sterk, een maatje van mij arnold buurman een van de beste bodybuilders uit nederland ooit.
Heeft wel eens 200mg halotestin met 100mg winstrol tergelijk genomen voor 8 weken geen grap, en hij was de eerste in nederland die met hgh/sth enz ging experimenten, hij is wel maar 42 jaar geworden.
Dat was ook zo een fucking gek die elke dag 1 gram test zetten enz.
---------- Toegevoegd om 12:57 ---------- De post hierboven werd geplaatst om 12:56 ----------
Een lever is fucking sterk, een maatje van mij arnold buurman een van de beste bodybuilders uit nederland ooit.
Heeft wel eens 200mg halotestin met 100mg winstrol tergelijk genomen voor 8 weken geen grap, en hij was de eerste in nederland die met hgh/sth enz ging experimenten, hij is wel maar 42 jaar geworden.
Dat was ook zo een fucking gek die elke dag 1 gram test zetten enz.
Wat een fucking monster was dat
Mijn waarden zaten heel hoog na 3 weken superdrol op 20mg.. zo hoog dat ik geelzucht kreeg. Dus dit zal per persoon verschillen denk ik.
Opajohan
Dutch Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 24 aug 2014
- Berichten
- 437
- Waardering
- 16
- Lengte
- 1m80
- Massa
- 85kg
dat klinkt niet best, hoe is het afgelopen?
newinthegame
Freaky Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 1 apr 2011
- Berichten
- 5.153
- Waardering
- 406
- Lengte
- 1m91
- Massa
- 119kg
- Vetpercentage
- 15%
Cycle was
1-3 20 mg superdrol
1-16 250mg test
1-10 800 tren E
10-16 700 tren A
10-16 350 mast p
Gains waren heel lekker, BP 35 omhoog(145) Small grip 30kg(120) omhoog, 8 kg gegained
Week 17.5 net voor dat ik me pct wou doen kreeg ik het met me lever. Hele rits bloedtesten en echo.
Maar is afgelopen met sisser na 5 weken waren men waarden weer binnen normaal. Alleen geen pct mogen doen dus gains waren weg.
Ga dit voorjaar op 1gr test only. Kijken wat dat doet. Ben dan 9 maand off dus moet wel knallen.
Opajohan
Dutch Bodybuilder
- Lid sinds
- 24 aug 2014
- Berichten
- 437
- Waardering
- 16
- Lengte
- 1m80
- Massa
- 85kg
Zoo gelukkig is het over gegaan en je gezichtkleur wordt dan weer normaal neem ik aan?
Als je leverwaarde weer in orde zijn?
1gr test wordt zowiezow knallen.
En wat is jou ervaring met tren als ik vragen mag?
