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Obedience to the Prophet.
First, we shall, God willing, address the issue of obeying the Prophet in spite of the fact that he has been dead for fourteen centuries and cannot issue any orders and consequently cannot be disobeyed.

God, in the Qur'an, invariably refers to 'God and the Messenger', as shown in the verses previously quoted, but this is clearly done for emphasis. God is telling us in no uncertain terms that the Messenger will never willfully take a position other than that taken by God, that he will never knowingly make a statement contrary to the Qur'an and that he will always support God's position as stated in the Qur'an, hence the phrase 'God and the Messenger'. It implies total support, not that the prophet might, or indeed can, take an independent stance. Chapter 69, Al-Haaqah, verses 44 to 47 state "(44) Had he falsely attributed certain sayings to Us (45) We would have inflicted punishment upon him (46) Then We would have stopped the revelation to him (47) And none of you could have shielded him from Us." These verses also definitively deny the body of 'aHadeeth referred to as 'Qudsi' which would thus fall under the purview of 69 (Al-Haaqah):44 cited above.

What is it that the Messenger is to be obeyed in? His whims? absolutely not! Chapter 10, Yunus, verse 15 states, "When Our revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet Us say 'Bring a Qur'an other than this, or change It!' Say, 'It is not for me to amend It of my own volition. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of an awesome day." From this we learn that the Prophet had no mandate to command us to do anything not sanctioned by God, otherwise the request to 'bring a Qur'an other than this or change it' would not make sense; his orders to us must be restricted to the message just like those issued by his illustrious predecessor messengers such as Nuh, Hud, Luut, Shu'aib and Saleh.

Chapter 7, Al-A'raaf, verses 59 through 93 inform us that they proclaimed to their people, in practically identical words, that they were messengers from God instructed to command them to worship God alone, to follow the guidance sent down by God and to obey them, the messengers, - they ask for no wage - in order to be rightly guided. They also warned their people of the consequences of disobeying them. Note that obedience is always voluntary and always connected with the message they were sent to deliver; the 'messenger' is always identified with his 'message'. From this, one may deduce that obedience was due not the individual, but the messenger, that is the message, as it is the message which will lead to right guidance; the message is meant to be obeyed even after the demise of the Messenger himself. It therefore follows that the messenger's job was to deliver the message and warn the recipients of the consequences of failing to obey the message. Once this is done, the messenger has no further responsibility. Whether they and their descendants obey the 'messenger' or not is entirely up to them. If they do obey it will be for their own good, if they do not it will be to their own detriment.

Had the obedience been due the Messenger himself, God would have told us to obey 'Muhammad', extended his responsibilities and given him powers of enforcement. There are no such provisions, and force is never recommended except within very narrow limits and always in a defensive manner as a reaction to its use by the opposition.

Muhammad's message was no different; obeying him, in the Qur'anic context, means only one thing: obeying God's commandments, and God's commandments are to be found exclusively in the Qur'an. In this case, of course, obeying the Messenger is obligatory for one's salvation since he is telling us, in effect, to "Obey the commandments of God as laid down in the Qur'an." Obeying others or disobeying God will inevitably lead us to perdition.

God tells us, in support of the above argument, at chapter 24, An-Nur, verse 54 " Say, 'Obey God and the Messenger.' If they refuse then he is responsible for his obligations and you are responsible for yours. If you obey him you will be rightly guided. The sole duty of the Messenger is to deliver." and at chapter 6, Al-An'am, verse 19, in part "...and this Qur'an has been inspired to me to warn you with and whomever It reaches..." and again at chapter 18, Al-Kahf, verse 27, we are told "Recite what has been revealed to you from your Lord's Book. None shall abrogate Its words and you shall never find refuge besides It." Note that the subject of the verse is 'Your Lord's Book'; thus 'words', 'abrogate' and 'refuge' apply to the 'Book', not 'Your Lord'. Salvation for us is in our 'Lord's book'.

Finally, and for good measure, we cite here two verses, chapter 5, Al-Ma'idah, verse 67, which commands "O Messenger! deliver what was sent down to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you will not have delivered His messages, and God protects you from the people. God does not guide the disbelievers." and chapter 88, Al-Ghaashiyah, verses 21 and 22 state "(21) You shall remind; you are entrusted to remind, (22) You have no power over them." Only the believers will obey the Messenger; as for the disbelievers, they will not obey and will not be guided, but they will have been given a fair chance to be.

The above verses notwithstanding, the advocates of Hadeeth take the position that the Prophet was empowered to legalize things and prohibit other things and it is in these matters that he is to be obeyed and they go so far as to accept a Hadeeth which brazenly states "I was given the Qur'an and a similar one with it!" Maybe it is that 'similar Qur'an' which empowers the Prophet to legislate; the Qur'an we know certainly does not!

Could this Hadeeth be true in view of 5(Al-Ma'idah):67 quoted immediately above? If it were, God would have informed us in the Qur'an. Muhammad delivered only one Qur'an. Could he have flouted God's direct orders, amply cited above, and failed to deliver the 'similar Qur'an'? and what good is this 'similar Qur'an' to us if he kept it to himself?

Nowhere is it stated, or even implied, that the Messenger was commanded to deliver other than the Qur'an. In fact God, in the above cited verses, tells us clearly that it is only the Qur'an that we are to receive from His prophet and the only thing we are to consider. It is this Qur'an that the Messenger warns us with and it is this Qur'an that he is to deliver. These are perfectly clear verses that need no exegesis or interpretation. God will hold us, as well as the Messenger, responsible for the Qur'an, thus at chapter 43, Az-Zukhruf, verse 44, He says "It is the Reminder for you and for your people and you will surely be held accountable."

Here God imposes the Qur'an on our prophet and on us; He does not mention anything else. God does not err, be He exalted, nor does He forget. The omission of anything else from the above verse is not an oversight, it is deliberate because He decreed nothing else. The Qur'an is not a riddle.

Finally, we present, in support of our contention that the Prophet Muhammad was given nothing but the Qur'an as the instrument of his mission, the following two verses, chapter 50, Qaf, verse 45 "We are fully aware of what they say, and you have no power over them. Therefore, remind with the Qur'an those who would fear My warnings." and chapter 27, An-Naml, at verses 91 and 92 says "(91) I was commanded to worship the Lord of this town; He has made it a safe sanctuary and He possesses all things. I was commanded to be a submitter (92) And to recite the Qur'an. Whoever is guided is guided for his own good and if they go astray, then Say 'I am merely a warner'". The use of the term 'guided' after the word 'Qur'an' can only mean that the instrument for this guidance is the Qur'an.

These verses clearly show that Muhammad's task was to deliver only the Qur'an. He was not commanded to deliver anything else, to recite anything else, to warn with anything else, to strive with anything else, to remind with anything else or to rule with anything else. There are, it is to be reiterated, no contradictions or ambiguities in the Qur'an.

From these and the following verses one can also deduce that Muhammad's task, as the Messenger, did not include expounding the Qur'an. Chapter 33, Al-Ahzaab, verse 45, states "O Prophet, We have sent you as a witness, a bearer of good news and a warner." Also, Chapter 5, Al-Ma'ida, verse 99, states "The sole duty of the Messenger is to deliver the message and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal." Again, at chapter 13, Ar-Ra'd, verse 40, we read "Whether we show you some of what We promise them or earlier terminate your life, it is for you to deliver the message and for Us to call them to account." Also chapter 42, Ash-Shura, verse 48 informs us, in part, that "So if they turn away, We did not send you as their guardian. Your duty is but to convey..." If God is just, as He claims to be, would He call us to account for an unclear and incomplete message that was not manifestly delivered to us? No!

As amply shown above, the Prophet's sole function was to deliver the Qur'an and use It to warn, but also Muhammad's activities as Messenger were circumscribed by the Qur'an thus at chapter 25, Al-Furqan, verse 52 God commands him "Therefore do not obey the disbelievers and strive against them with It, a great striving." Thus all of Muhammad's mission is centered on the Qur'an, including his struggles.

In his temporal functions also, Muhammad is commanded to use the Qur'an. Chapter 5, Al-Ma'ida, verse 48, commands, in part, "...You shall rule among them in accordance with what God has revealed and do not follow their wishes if these differ from what was sent down to you..."

What is it that God sent down to His Messenger? Only the Qur'an! As we have seen, the Prophet himself prohibited the recording of anything from him except the Qur'an. That should tell us something about the importance he himself placed upon Hadeeth. Actions speak louder than words. If there are no contradictions in the Qur'an - and there are none - these verses should be sufficient to convince the most obdurate of proponents of Hadeeth that Muhammad was sent to deliver only the Qur'an and use It to deal with the believer as well as the disbeliever; bring good news to the former and warn the latter, and to use It as his reference in his functions as a temporal leader.

According to the clear verses of the Qur'an, Muhammad was prohibited from explaining the Qur'an. At chapter 75, Al-Qiyamah, verses 16 to 19, Muhammad is commanded "(16) Do not move your tongue to expedite It. (17) It is for Us to collect It and promulgate It. (18) Once We have promulgated It, you shall follow Its promulgation. (19) Thereafter it is for Us to explain It." These verses confirm three things: (a) that it is only the Qur'an that Muhammad was to deliver; the 'It' referred to in these verses is the Qur'an; (b) that not only was Muhammad prohibited from expounding the Qur'an, but (c) he was also commanded to follow It.
We have, by God's leave, presented proof from His Book that the Prophet had no mandate to explain the Qur'an. The Qur'an Itself, if we care to read It carefully, clearly implies that there was never a need for Muhammad to interpret or explain It, simply because God provided him - in the Qur'an - with all the answers he needed to have. Thus we read in the Qur'an the expression "They ask you about..., Say...!" The answer to the question put to the prophet is given, by God, in the detail sufficient to obviate further questions on the issue. Nowhere do we read "They ask you about..., Give them your opinion!" or "...See what you think!" or even "...answer them as you see fit!"
 
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stoor je vooral niet aan mij maar deze thread krijgt echt iets komisch :D
 
stoor je vooral niet aan mij maar deze thread krijgt echt iets komisch :D

Ja ik snap best dat je dat gevoel kan krijgen als de materie je niet echt kan boeien. (no offence, ook niet sarcastisch bedoeld.

@sport2000, lees een de 2 lappen tekst die ik poste, en als je het te lang vind, lees dan het vetgedrukte (zwart en ook wat rood onderlijnt is) Dat zijn keiharde argumenten.
 
je plaats hier een partij tekst waar ik eerlijk gezegd niet erg warm van word, het is allemaal mooi geredeneerd maar ik heb slechts 1 kort statement gemaakt;
als we wat we weten van de sunnah niet gebruiken weten we niet hoe we het gebed moeten verrichten, dat statement maakt deze hele lap tekst totaal overbodig, tenzij je het niet met me eens bent, en mocht je dat niet zijn dan kan ik je niet verder helpen, maar weet ik voor mezelf dat een gesprek met jou geen zin heeft. en zal ik daar dus verder ook niet mee doorgaan.
 
Ja ik snap best dat je dat gevoel kan krijgen als de materie je niet echt kan boeien. (no offence, ook niet sarcastisch bedoeld.

@sport2000, lees een de 2 lappen tekst die ik poste, en als je het te lang vind, lees dan het vetgedrukte (zwart en ook wat rood onderlijnt is) Dat zijn keiharde argumenten.

@thinkalot: zie post hierboven.
@bart82: je hebt gelijk :roflol:
 
je plaats hier een partij tekst waar ik eerlijk gezegd niet erg warm van word, het is allemaal mooi geredeneerd maar ik heb slechts 1 kort statement gemaakt;
als we wat we weten van de sunnah niet gebruiken weten we niet hoe we het gebed moeten verrichten, dat statement maakt deze hele lap tekst totaal overbodig, tenzij je het niet met me eens bent, en mocht je dat niet zijn dan kan ik je niet verder helpen, maar weet ik voor mezelf dat een gesprek met jou geen zin heeft.

de tekst antwoord duidleijk je punt over het gebed;

als je de tekst niet wil lezen houdt dit in dat je geen argumenten wil lezen.

je krijgt er geen speld tussen, die argumetnen zijn keihard.


"The most commonly stated justification for Hadeeth is that it teaches the 'salat' (obligatory prayer). Al-Bukhari has a whole section called 'The Book of Prayer' and what is most amazing is that it does not contain a single Hadeeth that teaches the obligatory prayer. It contains mostly reports of people who purportedly saw the Prophet do or say certain things relating to the prayer and only one Hadeeth where he is reported to have taught one man, whom he had seen perform the prayer incorrectly, to pray. But the Hadeeth, as reported, says that the Prophet instructed the man in how to carry out the physical actions, kneeling and bowing, and to recite any part of the Qur'an failing to cite the number of bowing and kneeling or to mention the required recitation of "Al-Fatihah" the omission of which, we are told by other 'aHadeeth nullifies the prayer. There is one other Hadeeth, "Pray in the way you have seen me pray", but this Hadeeth does not teach the prayer either. There are no 'aHadeeth that give the number of 'rak'ah', bowings and kneeling, for each prayer, or, for that matter the rate of 'zakat', the self-administered obligatory 'income' tax.
Surely, had the Prophet been instructed by God to teach the obligatory prayer, as they claim, God would have, in view of its paramount importance, clearly told him so in the Qur'an. Had God instructed him - in some way outside of the Qur'an - he would have unambiguously and persistently proclaimed it to the people and would have taught them the prayer in detail just as the Qur'an does when we are instructed to carry out the ritual washing. Chapter 5 'Al-Ma'ida', verse 6 says, in part, "O you who believe, when you determine to offer the prayer you shall wash your faces and your arms to the elbows, and wipe your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. If you were ritually unclean from coïtusual intercourse you shall bathe..."

In this verse the Qur'an not only gives us detailed instructions for the 'wudu'', but also gives us the conditions precedent - ritual cleanliness after coïtusual intercourse - the conditions that nullify the 'wudu'' - discharge of human waste - as well as the alternative, 'tayammum', again fully detailed, in case clean water is not readily available or not recommended where the supplicant is sick. The instructions are succinct and comprehensive.

Contrast that with the paucity of instruction in a sea of marginally relevant 'aHadeeth. If one were to peruse the whole section on prayer and many other 'aHadeeth dealing with the subject of prayer, one might, with a great deal of patience, emerge with what resembles the obligatory prayer; but there are no 'aHadeeth that clearly and unambiguously teach the prayer, citing the actions and the required recitations, their order and number, the number of 'rak'ah' in each, the number of prayers in the day and their prescribed times.
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je plaats hier een partij tekst waar ik eerlijk gezegd niet erg warm van word, het is allemaal mooi geredeneerd maar ik heb slechts 1 kort statement gemaakt;
als we wat we weten van de sunnah niet gebruiken weten we niet hoe we het gebed moeten verrichten, dat statement maakt deze hele lap tekst totaal overbodig, tenzij je het niet met me eens bent, en mocht je dat niet zijn dan kan ik je niet verder helpen, maar weet ik voor mezelf dat een gesprek met jou geen zin heeft. en zal ik daar dus verder ook niet mee doorgaan.

de sunnah is niet alleen wat hij, vrede zij met hem, gezegd heeft.... je plaatst hele lappen tekst terwijl je in 1 zin kan antwoorden, ik weet wat er staat, maar het is geen argument dat keihard is, waar in de koran bevind zich de exacte beschrijving van het gebed?
 
Krijgen we hier nou ook al een godsdienstsoorlog?
 
Krijgen we hier nou ook al een godsdienstsoorlog?

nee hoor, gewoon wat wrijving omdat thinkie en ik van mening verschillen, maar aangezien hij overtuigd is van zijn gelijk zal hij dat er hoe dan ook doorheen proberen te drukken, de enige reden dat ik me nog niet teruggetrokken heb is dat ik hem dat pleziertje niet gun aangezien hij dan gaat roepen (denk ik) dattie gelijk heeft en ik het niet winnen kan. maar ik word het nogal zat met dat eeuwige gemekker en denk dat ik er, ondanks de drang te blijven toch maar mee ophoud:cool:
 
de sunnah is niet alleen wat hij, vrede zij met hem, gezegd heeft.... je plaatst hele lappen tekst terwijl je in 1 zin kan antwoorden, ik weet wat er staat, maar het is geen argument dat keihard is, waar in de koran bevind zich de exacte beschrijving van het gebed?

dt kan je echt niet menen. Je doet zelf de meoite niet om de tekst te lezen.

al je argumenten worden er in weerled. je bent opgevoed met het geloof in de hedieth en die wil je koste wat het kost behouden, zelf als je daarvoor je oogkleppen verder moet ophouden

Al de verzen die de tekst aanhaalt is superduidelijk, en zelf de hadieth zijn niet duidelijk omtrent je gebed, dus hou nu maar op. Ik geef het op, ik heb je objectieve info gegevne. doe er mee wat je wil.

ik stop met dit debat want je leest toch de argumenten niet.
 
nee hoor, gewoon wat wrijving omdat thinkie en ik van mening verschillen, maar aangezien hij overtuigd is van zijn gelijk zal hij dat er hoe dan ook doorheen proberen te drukken, de enige reden dat ik me nog niet teruggetrokken heb is dat ik hem dat pleziertje niet gun aangezien hij dan gaat roepen (denk ik) dattie gelijk heeft en ik het niet winnen kan. maar ik word het nogal zat met dat eeuwige gemekker en denk dat ik er, ondanks de drang te blijven toch maar mee ophoud:cool:

je wilt meedebatteren maar je lees de argumentne niet; je vraagt me te antwoorden als ik antwoord en dit iondersteun met verzen uit de KOan , dan zeg je dat ik andere zaken over het hoofd zie;

doei , dag arrivederci.

je hebt nog steeds niet geantwoord op de vvraag omtrent de hadieth van aicha. Volgens de hadieth van bukhari trouwde mohamed met een meisje van 6! hoe kan je dan die hadieth gaan geloven?


According to the clear verses of the Qur'an, Muhammad was prohibited from explaining the Qur'an. At chapter 75, Al-Qiyamah, verses 16 to 19, Muhammad is commanded "(16) Do not move your tongue to expedite It. (17) It is for Us to collect It and promulgate It. (18) Once We have promulgated It, you shall follow Its promulgation. (19) Thereafter it is for Us to explain It."
 
ik heb ze gelezen, ze kloopen niet volledig, je houdt je oogkleppen op en beschuldigd me weer vals, erg jammer dat jij op deze manier met mensen in discussie gaat, maar dat was al langer bekend, de vorige discussie die je niet trok begon je ook op deze manier, wat de salaat betreft heb ik gewoon gelijk, dat weet je, dat je er niet tegen lijkt te kunnen is een ander verhaal.
je negeert vervolgens zoals wel vaker compleet een vraag die je absoluut wel ziet staan aangezien ik beknopte antwoorden aan je geef.
en wat je gedachte betreft dat ik ben opgevoed met de hadieth, ook daar heb je ongelijk in, nogmaals denk niet dat je weet wie ik ben, dan zal je je vaak gaan vergissen
 
ik heb ze gelezen, ze kloopen niet volledig, je houdt je oogkleppen op en beschuldigd me weer vals, erg jammer dat jij op deze manier met mensen in discussie gaat, maar dat was al langer bekend, de vorige discussie die je niet trok begon je ook op deze manier, wat de salaat betreft heb ik gewoon gelijk, dat weet je, dat je er niet tegen lijkt te kunnen is een ander verhaal.
je negeert vervolgens zoals wel vaker compleet een vraag die je absoluut wel ziet staan aangezien ik beknopte antwoorden aan je geef.
en wat je gedachte betreft dat ik ben opgevoed met de hadieth, ook daar heb je ongelijk in, nogmaals denk niet dat je weet wie ik ben, dan zal je je vaak gaan vergissen


en je antwoord over de hadieth van aicha en mohamed? dat ze gehuwd zijn toen ze zes was? Nog steeds geen antwoord:


en wat met:

God tells us that the Qur'an is fully detailed and complete. Chapter 6, Al-An'am, verses 114 - 115 state "(114) Shall I seek other than God as an arbiter, when He is the one who revealed to you the Book explained in detail? Those to whom We have given the Book know that it was revealed by your Lord in truth. So be not among those who harbour doubt. (115) The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice. Nothing shall alter His words and He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.".

fully detailed en complete, maar jij hebt wel de hadieth nodig?
 
de sunnah is niet alleen wat hij, vrede zij met hem, gezegd heeft.... je plaatst hele lappen tekst terwijl je in 1 zin kan antwoorden, ik weet wat er staat, maar het is geen argument dat keihard is, waar in de koran bevind zich de exacte beschrijving van het gebed?

check post. i'm waiting:cool:
 

dat stat er niet in en dat is niet nodig omdat men dhet gebed leerde van vader op zoon, en van man tot man, vanaf de profeet tot nu.

maar negeer gerust de Koran hoor:
God tells us that the Qur'an is fully detailed and complete. Chapter 6, Al-An'am, verses 114 - 115 state "(114) Shall I seek other than God as an arbiter, when He is the one who revealed to you the Book explained in detail? Those to whom We have given the Book know that it was revealed by your Lord in truth. So be not among those who harbour doubt. (115) The word of your Lord is complete in truth and justice. Nothing shall alter His words and He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.".

fully detailed en complete, maar jij hebt wel de hadieth nodig?


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Let us take a close look at the parameters of Al-Bukhari's claims.

He claims to have been tutored by more than one thousand teachers, to have collected, examined and classified six hundred thousand 'aHadeeth of which he memorized more than one hundred thousand. We are not told that he had any assistants or helpers. Now, if we allow one single hour to process each Hadeeth he would have had to work non-stop for about seventy years. Since the work involved is time consuming and arduous, because each Hadeeth would have had to be traced back to the Prophet Muhammad through a long transmission chain each link of which must be closely examined to determine if the reporter partook of strong drink, and for such attributes as integrity, moral rectitude, astuteness, truthfulness, mental alertness, and, not least, soundness of memory; one would imagine that it would take considerably more than one single hour to process each Hadeeth. Add to that the fact that each chain might consist of as many as six or seven individuals of successive generations all but one of whom are dead, and one can readily see the magnitude of this daunting task.
 
en waar blijft je antwoord over de hadieth van aicha en mohemad war men zegt dat ze huwde op haar zesde? Geloof je dat ook? tis de zesde keer dat ik dat vraag.
 
dat stat er niet in en dat is niet nodig omdat men dhet gebed leerde van vader op zoon, en van man tot man, vanaf de profeet tot nu.

dus de islam is compleet met de koran, maar papa moet wel uitleggen hoe er gebeden moet worden? hier heb je toch echt de sunnah voor nodig
 
dus de islam is compleet met de koran, maar papa moet wel uitleggen hoe er gebeden moet worden? hier heb je toch echt de sunnah voor nodig

dus de koan is niet compleet volgens jou? Dus spreek je de koran tegen.
je negeert mijn vragen en mijn argumenten.

"The most commonly stated justification for Hadeeth is that it teaches the 'salat' (obligatory prayer). Al-Bukhari has a whole section called 'The Book of Prayer' and what is most amazing is that it does not contain a single Hadeeth that teaches the obligatory prayer. It contains mostly reports of people who purportedly saw the Prophet do or say certain things relating to the prayer and only one Hadeeth where he is reported to have taught one man, whom he had seen perform the prayer incorrectly, to pray. But the Hadeeth, as reported, says that the Prophet instructed the man in how to carry out the physical actions, kneeling and bowing, and to recite any part of the Qur'an failing to cite the number of bowing and kneeling or to mention the required recitation of "Al-Fatihah" the omission of which, we are told by other 'aHadeeth nullifies the prayer. There is one other Hadeeth, "Pray in the way you have seen me pray", but this Hadeeth does not teach the prayer either. There are no 'aHadeeth that give the number of 'rak'ah', bowings and kneeling, for each prayer, or, for that matter the rate of 'zakat', the self-administered obligatory 'income' tax.
Surely, had the Prophet been instructed by God to teach the obligatory prayer, as they claim, God would have, in view of its paramount importance, clearly told him so in the Qur'an. Had God instructed him - in some way outside of the Qur'an - he would have unambiguously and persistently proclaimed it to the people and would have taught them the prayer in detail just as the Qur'an does when we are instructed to carry out the ritual washing. Chapter 5 'Al-Ma'ida', verse 6 says, in part, "O you who believe, when you determine to offer the prayer you shall wash your faces and your arms to the elbows, and wipe your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. If you were ritually unclean from coïtusual intercourse you shall bathe..."

In this verse the Qur'an not only gives us detailed instructions for the 'wudu'', but also gives us the conditions precedent - ritual cleanliness after coïtusual intercourse - the conditions that nullify the 'wudu'' - discharge of human waste - as well as the alternative, 'tayammum', again fully detailed, in case clean water is not readily available or not recommended where the supplicant is sick. The instructions are succinct and comprehensive.
 
Wel grappig dit, een blanke moslim in discussie met een arabische ongelovige. :D
 
Waar is de Arabische ongelovige dan?
 
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