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[Chreiz]

De helft. Veel geld, maar weinig moeite.

 

[mikeo26]

ik dacht 300 euro

 

[Ano_1988_27]

neej 200 nog maar moet ervanaf mensen

 

[Ano_1992_2]

Veel dingen zijn daar weg. Volgens mij de yoke, carcircle en harnassen.

Ben al materiaal bij elkaar aan het krijgen voor de boom en een sled/crawler. Tevens wat chains. Daarnaast wil ik dit met een aantal man samen doen. Ieder maakt bijvoorbeeld wat events zo hou je de kosten wat in de hand. Gaat iemand weg dan neemt deze zijn onderdelen mee en krijg je nooit gezeur of ruzie achteraf.

Thnx.

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Yoke en car circle zijn idd weg, evenals de lichte timbers. De harnassen zijn van André zelf en hangen er dus nog.
Wat er nu nog ligt: stones 105 t/m 170, axle, boom, 125kg timbers, tires, harnassen+touw.

 

[JOHN OVE]

Yoke en car circle zijn idd weg, evenals de lichte timbers. De harnassen zijn van André zelf en hangen er dus nog.
Wat er nu nog ligt: stones 105 t/m 170, axle, boom, 125kg timbers, tires, harnassen+touw.

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hier moet je toch nog flink mee kunnen trainen M -alleen dus opzoek naar een yoke en een autocirkel

 

[Eddine]

Yoke en car circle zijn idd weg, evenals de lichte timbers. De harnassen zijn van André zelf en hangen er dus nog.
Wat er nu nog ligt: stones 105 t/m 170, axle, boom, 125kg timbers, tires, harnassen+touw.

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Wordt daar nog veel mee getraind?

 

[UnCompress]

Wordt daar nog veel mee getraind?

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http://forum.dutchbodybuilding.com/f32/strongmantraining-ridderkerk-zh-196029/

 

[Eddine]

Beetje oud topic

 

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Woensdag: UB/ME
MP
Fat bar
3x55kg
2x60kg
1x62,5kg
0x65kg
Oly bar
0x65kg

Rackpull boven knie
5x120kg
3x160kg
3x170kg
2x180kg
1x190kg
1x200kg
1x210kg
1x220kg
1x230kg
1x240kg
1x250kg

Floor press 2 sec pause / narrow grip / straight legs
Fat bar
3x80kg
3x90kg
2x95kg
2x100kg
Oly bar
1x105kg PR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZhWB0Kh-3s

Nieuw schema waarbij ik meer me op kracht ga richten. Ook eens veel singles draaien. MP met fat gripz waren zwaar. Bij de 65kg was het op, ook de oly bar ging niet meer.

Gisteren de benen flink gepakt en een hele tijd geen deadlifts meer gedaan dus racks boven de knie gedaan. Wel schouders voorbij de bar om de rom van de rug te vergroten. Ben maar doorgegaan, voelde heerlijk.

Floor press met fat gripz erg zwaar voor de polsen. Bij de 100kg klapte linker pols bijna weg, kon nog net corrigeren.

 

[corpaul]

goeie training mark. heb jij geen last met je fat gripz dat ze afzonderlijk van elkaar draaien? ik vind ze niet zo prettig voor bb werk

 

[Chreiz]

Mooie rackpull man. Geen moeite om het vast te houden?

 

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Thnx. Die racks gingen tot mijn verbazing heel goed. Goed voorteken voor de deads.

Die van mij draaien niet, zet ze dan ook over de knurling en de bar is dikker dan de opening dus als ik knijp dan sluiten ze goed aan.

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Mooie rackpull man. Geen moeite om het vast te houden?

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Nee geen moeite, mixed grip natuurlijk. Wel mijn handen open gehaald (kleine blaar).

 

[corpaul]

ah beter, ik heb altijd het idee dat ze alle kanten opgaan.. toch maar weer eens proberen dan.

volgende week fat bar 250kg deadlift?

 

[Getinthecar]

Volgens mij weet jij dat wel Chick. Ik heb gehoord dat als je met een fat bar pushing bewegingen doet (banken, MP) dat er dan meer spanning op je lichaam komt omdat je harder moet knijpen (klopt dit?). Maar wat is het voordeel hiervan, dat je meer spiervezels aanspreekt?

 

[Hummer]

Ik heb toevallig gisteren mijn steigerpijp gekregen.
Het schijnt goed te zijn voor alles, die dikke grip.

 

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ah beter, ik heb altijd het idee dat ze alle kanten opgaan.. toch maar weer eens proberen dan.

volgende week fat bar 250kg deadlift?

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Moet geen enkel probleem zijn.

Volgens mij weet jij dat wel Chick. Ik heb gehoord dat als je met een fat bar pushing bewegingen doet (banken, MP) dat er dan meer spanning op je lichaam komt omdat je harder moet knijpen (klopt dit?). Maar wat is het voordeel hiervan, dat je meer spiervezels aanspreekt?

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Klopt allemaal. Heb momenteel mega spierpijn in de handen en onderarmen.

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CHAPTER TWELVE: THICK BARS
Advanced dinosaurs train with thick handled barbells and dumbbells. A regular barbell or
dumbbell is l” or l 1/16” in diameter. Dinosaurs use barbells and dumbbells that are 2”, 2 1/2”
or even 3” in diameter. Why? Because using a thick handled bar is one of the very best things
you can do to develop maximum muscular size and strength. The turn of the century
strongmen - many of whom were enormously stronger than the vast majority of our modern
“champions” - were well acquainted with the incredible effect of thick bar work. They thrived
on it. The thick bar work allowed them to develop levels of upper body power virtually
incomprehensible to those who train only with regular bars.

WHY THICK BARS WORK
Thick bars develop levels of muscular size and strength that cannot be duplicated with any
other equipment. Thick bars are very difficult to control. Compared to an Olympic barbell, a
bar with a 2” or 3” diameter seems like a log. Can you imagine bench pressing, pressing, or
curling a telephone pole? That’s what it feels like when you use a thick handled barbell. You
cannot rely on style, form, riming, or technique to complete the lift. You have to do it with
sheer strength. To paraphrase Dr. Ken Leistner, “all you can do is lie back and push” when
you bench with a thick handled bar. That’s one reason why thick bar work is so effective. It
imposes a tremendous burden on the muscles, tendons and ligaments - a far, far greater
burden than a regular barbell imposes.

THE MIND-MUSCLE CONNECTION
A second reason why thick bar work is so beneficial is that the bar forces you to involve your
forearms, hands, wrists and fingers to a far greater degree than does a conventional bar. This
in turn causes a stronger mind-muscle link, which inevitably leads to greater gains in
muscular size and strength. Have I lost you? Stay with me, I will explain everything.
What do I mean when I talk about a “mind-muscle link?” 1 mean the connection between
your brain and your nervous system. Whenever you lift a weight, the lift begins with the brain
consciously directing the muscles to push or pull in a particular direction. The message from
the brain is carried to the muscles via the nervous system. When the muscles receive the
message, they respond by pushing or pulling in the manner directed by the brain. That’s the
mind-muscle link; the connection between the brain, the nervous system and the muscles.
Messages from the brain to the muscles are transmitted by nerve impulses. The strength of
each individual nerve impulse, the total number of nerve impulses, and the frequency with
which nerve impulses are transmitted from brain to muscle is one of the most critical factors
in the amount of force you can exert in any given lift. I have no research studies to cite and no
way to “prove” that my opinion is correct, but I firmly believe that using thick bars in your
training causes an increase in the strength of individual nerve impulses, the total number of
nerve impulses and the frequency of transmission of nerve impulses.
As I noted above, thick bars are terribly awkward and extremely difficult to handle. You have
to adjust the bar’s path constantly as you lift it or else you will get hopelessly out of the
groove almost immediately. There has to be constant feedback between the brain and the
muscles. I believe that the necessity of constant feedback causes a stronger mind-muscle link.
and I believe that this is one very important reason why thick bar work is so incredibly
productive.

THE FEAR FACTOR
Another reason why thick bar work may trigger heightened involvement of the nervous
system is that the bars look so imposing and formidable that you automatically push or pull
much harder than you could do with a normal bar. This sounds crazy, but think about it for a
minute. Many years ago, the Harvard psychologist, William James, noted that a man will
squeeze harder on a dynometer device if a red light is flashing as he squeezes. Other colors
did not produce the same effect, and some colors caused test subjects to squeeze LESS hard
on the dynometer no matter how hard they tried. James theorized that this was because red is
a color associated with danger (after all, red is the color of fire, blood and war). Compared to
blue, while, green or brown, red is a “hot” color. If a colored light can cause a man to exert
more muscular force in a given movement, surely a bar two or three times thicker than normal
can cause a similar reaction.
Remember, fear is a great motivator. The great heavyweight boxing champion, Jack
Dempsey, fought like a caged animal and literally destroyed his opponent whenever he faced
a substantially larger adversary - but often fought like a mere mortal when confronted with an
opponent his own size. Dempsey demolished the hulking Jess Willard, who was much taller
and close to 100 pounds heavier than Dempsey. However, Dempsey had a terrible time with
Edward Carpentier, a man smaller than he, and lost twice - his only defeats - to Gene Tunney.
who was roughly his own size. Some believe that Dempsey was at his savage best when
motivated by the fear of facing a much larger opponent. I believe that to be the case, and I
also believe that the mere sight of a steel bar that looks like a telephone pole will trigger an
extra bit of adrenaline in any lifter. In other words, using a thick bar is a little like having your
own personal coach shouting at you to “PUSH” harder on each rep you do.

GREAT FOR THE GRIP
Thick bars are terrific for strengthening the forearms, wrists, thumbs and fingers. An exercise
you do with a thick bar automatically becomes a test of hand and finger strength. Pulling
movements are almost impossible with a thick bar, curling movements are incredibly rugged,
and even pressing exercises are downright nasty when you do them with a thick bar. As a
dinosaur, you will be doing plenty of specialized grip work, but be aware that you will work
your grip savagely by simply using a thick bar instead of a regular bar for your upper body
movements.

THICK BARS AND SPINELESS WIMPS
There is yet another important thing about thick bars. Wimps, yups and wannabe’s won’t go
near them. Muscle pumpers and drug babies wouldn’t touch a thick bar on a bet. The chrome
and fern crowd would rather give up their Evian water and celery sticks than try to lift a thick
handled bar. You may think I’m kidding, but I’m deadly serious about this. Before I started
training in the sanity of my basement gym, I took my 3” bar to the gym where I trained, and I
was always amused by the reaction.
Some guys literally ran away whenever they saw the thing. They were very obviously
intimidated by the large, thick mass of iron. They always went over and found solace in the
chrome plated dumbbells the gym owner had purchased from a women’s spa that went out of
business. The only guys whoever wanted to use the thing were Ted Solinger and Bruce
Bullock, who later became my training partners in my home gym. In other words, the thick
handled bar was a great way to tell who was serious about training and who was content to
“sculpt” and “shape” and do meaningless movements with chrome plated baby weights.
If I ever open a gym, I will stock it with thick handled barbells and dumbbells. Doing so
would be a great way to discourage the wimps and yups and talkers from joining the gym.
One look at the thick handled bars and the twinkle crowd would run for cover. So would the
muscle pumpers - they would immediately realize that lifting a bar like that required
STRENGTH, and pumpers as a group are about as strong as undernourished kittens. The only
guys who would go to a gym that featured lots and lots of thick bars would be the kind of
guys who were interested in strength, power and physical challenges. Come to think of it, the
gym would cater to dinosaurs and nobody else. Not a bad idea!

HOW TO USE THICK BARS
Use thick bars for all of your upper body exercises. Always use a power rack for thick bar
bench presses, and set the bottom pins to catch the weight in case the bar slips. NEVER do
thick bar benches outside the power rack!
Use your head when you begin to incorporate thick bar work. Drop the poundages at first.
You will NOT be able to handle your regular poundages when you first begin thick bar
movements. The first time I tried thick bar benches, all I could handle was 365 pounds - and it
almost killed me. With a regular bar, I was handling 405-410 at the time.
A three inch bar is too thick for some lifters to curl. If the bar is too thick for you, your
elbows will let you know! Be alert to this, and do not hesitate to drop from a 3” to a 2” bar if
your elbows protest.

Bron: Dinosaur training

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Ik heb toevallig gisteren mijn steigerpijp gekregen.
Het schijnt goed te zijn voor alles, die dikke grip.

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Zekers, is die 50 of 60mm?

 

[JOHN OVE]

Mooi gewicht mc , die 250

 

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Ik had het zelf niet verwacht na een tijd geen deads en racks gedaan te hebben.
Afgelopen maanden heb ik dan veel aandacht aan events besteed en daar wordt je sterk van. Core strength is aanzienlijk toegenomen dat dat zal hier tevens een positieve bijdrage aan hebben geleverd.

 

[Rooke]

Verdomd netjes die 250 , vroeger deed je toch RP onder de knie?

 

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Thnx Rookemaster. Klopt en dat blijf ik tevens doen, maar mijn benen waren gaar gisteren. Wilde minder benen betrekken en de lockout aanpakken.